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Yeah but I thought we have AGI now and you can just vibe code your own custom roll up of anything in an hour, no expertise required... Right... Right?

Dont worry the US will hoodwink Europe back into be a compliant vassal of the Empire in a few years when they elect a democrat who pretends to be liberal and acting in good faith, probably AOC(ia).

the countries where this isn't an issue don't have trash all over their streets either lol.

Please tell me how AI is going to make regular people's lives better. You optimisitic types keep saying "just wait, its going to cure diseases" without any outlook on how thats going to happen. You're actually just repeating marketing jargon from AI companies who want people to think they're going to possibly live longer if you let them build more datacenters, so they can make another 30%. Its all about money, thats it.

It seems to me that it is making everyone (including myself and the researchers we need to cure diseases) lazy and dependent on thinking machines owned by tech companies. Just how autocomplete and gps made us worse at spelling and navigating, llms make us less able to exercise our ability to think and problem solve. This will have 100% strictly negative consequences on you and the world as a whole. .

And even if there was a cure to many diseases the eugenics types who are embedded in worldwide power structures definately arent going to share that universally.

You'll get mass poverty and violence which the owners of AI will qwell with AI surveillance and weapons. AI will be used to pit us against eachother and justify wars to keep us busy. Fun times ahead.

Not sure why anyone is excited about this tech.

kept under wraps until the day after they released their scary model, wow they're just running the same marketing playbooks on us with every release.

People have been running these types of honeypots for a while now, there's thousands of them I'm sure. Some of them are out there specifically to poison training data to insert propaganda as to why a certain country in the middle east should be allowed to commit genocide.

Imagine actually falling for this marketing

Lmao, come on dude, anyone whos used these tools for research knows it makes them lazier, less interested and dumber. You really want disease researchers become sloppers too?

must be something wrong with the benchmark, the thing everyone optimizes for. That's actually a big red flag, and very cringe that you'd naively believe OpenAI.

Why is everyone so excited to be replaced and become reliant on some billionaire's thinking machine? These are just going to be used to turn you into a rather dumb reliant paypig.

How dumb are you?

Hey its a lot mpre thsn Anthropic which you probably use everyday all day without complaints.

What do you think you're doing when you accept an edit, press thumbs up, or don't ask for modifications after an edit.

why would you force me to login to see what the game is, I have zero information and you're asking me for a password or my google information. hostile and creepy.

and they're ultimately tools strictly to replace you and your labor, they can't/won't cure cancer or make your life better. Your life will get worse and worse in every aspect until they extract maximum value from all of our lives with this technology through every avenue possible. Not sure why you guys are so excited about these developments.

This technology is strictly an extractive parasite on the world. Use it, but don't be excited.

Every lab trains their models with AI generated code at this point.

slot machine addict thinks if he pushes buttons in a certain order the odds get better.

In all seriousness, gemini has the best interactive planning document/orchestration. Tell it to create a plan document and work through it with it and it will preform really well(in antigravity products). But this is the case with plan modes with every model, I just think the interactive document that antigravity uses is really well thought out.

Nowhere does he say he built an llm. Hes using a transformer, not an llm.

LLM prose has degraded with each model update, the models are now being RL'd into wall of texts that only makes sense to other agents. I think its going to become more obvious as we move forward that is llm generated because labs seem to only be focused on tool-calling/agentic-coding environments, as that's the only thing that drives revenue.

There may come players who focus on models that are good at writing for technical writing/docs , copyrighting ect but I think people will lean towards not using them and will rather have the "human touch" for the things that directly impact brand perception.

Keep in mind, every single AI company that is selling the idea that you don't need to hire designers and web design is "solved" have $100k retainer designers crafting their landing pages.

Why wouldn't you only calculate consecutive requests with the same provider....

Do you really think they're docking points because cache invalidation due to provider switching? Seriously llms are frying ya'lls brain.

No

I know what they're saying. Why would openrouter calculate it thay way lol. They obviously dont. Think for a sec, they arent idiots.

When the prefix matches a request sent to the same Providor. The thing is the TTL is different for each provider, some cache for 5 minutes some cache for 1hr. Its ideal to only use one provider per agent session / and per model with the best cache hit % if you care about costs.

This is not true, there isn't even a way to see a cache hit % model for a specific model, that wouldn't make any sense. You are confusing what I'm saying with cache cost, that has nothing to do with effective cache hit %. I'm talking about when you click on a specific provider for a specific model, you can scroll down on the view and see their cache hit % for that model [0].

These cache Hit % are accurate, I've done a ton of testing of this myself. The cache hit % is one of the most important metrics as far as estimating cost. There are many providers with cheap cache reads, but have an effective cache hit % of 30%, making their cheaper cache pricing meaningless compared to another provider who charges more but has a 85% cache hit percentage.

[0]: https://openrouter.ai/deepseek/deepseek-v4-flash-0731?endpoi...

scroll down on the provider/model card and you'll see a field called cache hit %, its different for every provider/model.

I don't use routing on openrouter, I strictly use models with a single provider and no fallback, at least for use with harnesses its pretty dumb to route requests to multiple providers you are busting your cache every other request and increasing costs by 20-50%.

You can sort by the cost cache cose, but you cannot by cache hit %. You have to click on the provider and see what their cache hit % is. A provider could have a super low cache cost, but a 50% cache hit percentage, making the cheap price of cache read's meaningless.

That's because Deepseek invented the paradigm of prompt caching, they are the SOTA when it comes these techniques. Despite them open sourcing all their research, nobody beats them.

edit: I do wish openrouter would let you sort providers by Cache Hit % and Cache cost. These are the only things that matter to me at this point when choosing a provider.

I get buy with very cheap models and actually using my brain, you don't need these SOTA models. China will definitely win this AI 'war'