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That is largely because no one has bothered to build anything remotely close to IG in the last 5+ years besides maybe TikTok. And even then, TikTok is more of an apples and oranges comparison to IG in lots of ways.

My thing about ExploitGym in particular is that it's testing environment varies depending on the exploit. From what I've read, it tends to favor userspace sandboxing inside Docker containers for standard program exploits (eg Chrome), and only uses QEMU for Linux kernel stuff (still in Docker, from what I understand). So every time I hear that an agent "broke out" of a environment, I have to question the kind of isolation used. Because escaping a sandbox or container engine is a lot more trivial than something escaping something like ESXi or Proxmox.

Qwen HAS to be a part of the discussion here, even though Microsoft is a US based entity. Their 30b MoE models absolutely hit way above their weight when paired with the right harness program, and can be ran on "Costco gaming computer" specs when configured correctly in llama.cpp.

Sorry Trump Administration, but while the US has been downloading more ram by throwing data centers at everything and burning up everyone's power and water, China has come out with what's effectively a prototype edge compute capable AI model - regardless of how they built it. And arguably I can tokenmaxx on it just fine at around 30-40 tokens/sec.

And also, ASICs are on the way. Imagine one of those with a heavy hitting model (MoE or otherwise, Qwen or otherwise) installed in a PCIe slot at 10k+ tokens/sec and 75 watts max (maximum wattage deliverable by the PCIe slot alone) for $300-400 USD each.

https://taalas.com/the-path-to-ubiquitous-ai/

ASIC demo here: https://chatjimmy.ai/

Sorry/not sorry to rip this whole thing to shreds. But I'm sick and tired of these inefficient LLMs being produced that seemingly can only be offered by subscription from a data center, when I'm running a full AI stack right now (model and all) on my computer at home on a 750 watt max power supply. Microsoft really needs to get with the picture here and compete more with Qwen instead of just the US/EU entities.

Sincerely, your neighbor down in Tacoma. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9jlo4Ht2YA&t=229s

> There should be no ability to "verify" a browser, and anyone should be able to emulate any browser.

Hard disagree. The AI industry has absolutely shredded the various anti-scraping and anti-botting social contracts that were in place prior to the covid pandemic. Like it's now common knowledge that robots.txt isn't a hard requirement and can be avoided entirely, for example. They have absolutely turned the open web into a dark forest.

Having a browser session able to be verified as untampered and/or "trusted" is probably going to be a thing going forward. Sucks a ton, but we all did this to ourselves.

Because they're stupid and only buys stuff that's "safe". Because nobody gets fired for buying IBM.

Intel could position their cards as strong for certain workloads. They had AV1 support first in market, for example.

Thunderbolt is really an unsung hero here. It is surprisingly nice to be able to move various components around my desk that would have otherwise sat in a huge tower hogging all the PCIe slots they can find.

You don’t need it if you use llamacpp on Windows, or if you compile it on Linux with CUDA 13 and the correct kernel HMM support, and you’re only using MoE models (which, tbh, you should be doing anyways).

This needs to be sold as the big ticket item for low level devs. Their chips are some of the most power efficient chips on the market right now.

Hoping they release a blade server version somehow.

CUDA 13 on Linux solves the unified memory problem via HMM and llamacpp. It’s an absolute pain to get running without disabling Secure Boot, but that should be remedied literally next month with the release of Ubuntu 26.04 LTS. Canonical is incorporating signed versions of both the new Nvidia open driver and CUDA into its own repo system, so look out for that. Signed Nvidia modules do already exist right now for RHEL and AlmaLinux, but those aren’t exactly the best desktop OSes.

But yeah, right now Apple actually has price <-> performance captured a lot of you’re buying a new computer just in general.

> For example, when my Windows gaming machine comes out of hibernation my ethernet controller insists that there's no connection. I can't convince it otherwise except by disabling the device and re-enabling it. I can't figure out where I might find information that tells me why this is happening, so I just wrote a powershell script to turn it off and then on again. I bet some Windows IT dork could figure it out in 30 seconds

Windows and Linux dork here (heh). It has to do with how various computer manufacturers implemented the Sleep/Standby State (S3/S4), how they've resisted implementing a common standard at the hardware level, and how Microsoft eventually gave up arguing and patched around it with their own Modern Standby system in the S0 state.

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/design/de...

Tbh, though, the only computer I've ever seen Hibernate work well on are Macs. Every x86 computer usually has some sort of issue with it, except for maybe business laptop models (eg HP's Elitebook line).

"If Apple Business were a real revenue source, if they charged luxury prices for a luxurious business support experience, they could pay for developers to fix their stuff. Instead, Apple Business is a free side hustle for Apple, a hobby."

I'm wrestling with something similar to this right now in Linux. The only real player that charges "enough" to have a "absolutely zero tolerance for base OS breakage" approach to OS development is Red Hat. Ubuntu LTS is more widespread but only really because it's $0 even for large businesses, and that's honestly reflected in it sometimes having hardware breakage during a version's initial two year mainstream support run. Having Windows's business backed level of "doesn't break" on hardware is rare on Linux.

Bigger one:

* Predictability - eliminating the number of unknown factors that could cause a person to have issues using their computer. Reminds me of how a secretary I serviced was somehow able to install Google Desktop back in the day, and how that caused a massive argument between my boss and theirs when their computer needed to be re-imaged. Most IT approved programs are known to store user data in known locations on a computer, which makes backups and restorations very easy. Stuff like Google Desktop did not do that, which means likely breaking someone's workflow in the re-image process.

False. Local races directly determine the day-to-day laws and rules you live under way more than a POTUS could effectively decree. I don't know about you, but I sure enjoy having reliable electrical, water, and sewer systems.

In the US, we have the ability to either confirm or change a significant chunk of our Federal government roughly every two years via the House of Representatives. The argument here is that we, theoretically, could collectively elect people that are hostile to domestic mass surveillance into the House of Representatives (and other places if able) and remove pro-surveillance incumbents from power on this two year cycle.

The reasons this hasn't happened yet are many and often vary by personal opinion. My top two are:

1) Lack of term limits across all Federal branches

and

2) A general lack of digital literacy across all Federal branches

I mean, if the people who are supposed to be regulating this stuff ask Mark Zuckerberg how to send an email, for example, then how the heck are they supposed to say no to the well dressed government contractor offering a magical black box computer solution to the fear of domestic terrorism (regardless of if its actually occurring or not)?

> the Linux kernel and Linux distros both leave that unified memory capability up to the GPU driver to implement

Depends on if AMD (or Intel, since Arc drivers are supposedly OSS as well) took the time to implement that. Or if a Linux based OS/distro implements a Linux equivalent to the Windows Display Driver Model (needs code outside of the kernel and specific to the developed OS/distro to do).

So far, though, it seems like people are more interested in pointing fingers and sucking up the water of small town America than actually building efficient AI/graphics tech.

> 'secure' (by executive standards)

"Secure" in the sense that they can sue someone after the fact, instead of preventing data from leaking in the first place.

Hanlon's razor.

"Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."

Yes, I'm calling labs that don't distill smaller sized models stupid for not doing so.

You can run AI models on unified/shared memory specifically on Windows, not Linux (unfortunately). It uses the same memory sharing system that Microsoft originally had built for gaming when a game would run out of vram. If you:

- have an i5 or better or equivalent manufactured within the last 5-7 years

- have an nvidia consumer gaming GPU (RTX 3000 series or better) with at least 8 GB vram

- have at least 32 GB system ram (tested with DDR4 on my end)

- build llama-cpp yourself with every compiler optimization flag possible

- pair it with a MoE model compatible with your unified memory amount

- and configure MoE offload to the CPU to reduce memory pressure on the GPU

then you can honestly get to about 85-90% of cloud AI capability totally on-device, depending on what program you interface with the model.

And here's the shocking idea: those system specs can be met by an off the shelf gaming computer from, for example, Best Buy or Costco today and right now. You can literally buy a CyberPower or iBuyPower model, again for example, download the source, run the compilation, and have that level of AI inference available to you.

Now, the reason why it won't work on Linux is that the Linux kernel and Linux distros both leave that unified memory capability up to the GPU driver to implement. Which Nvidia hasn't done yet. You can code it somewhat into source code, but it's still super unstable and flaky from what I've read.

(In fact, that lack of unified memory tech on Linux is probably why everyone feels the need to build all these data centers everywhere.)

It also lets them keep a lot of the legal issues regarding LLM development at arms length while still benefiting from them.

It's Meta. They always push to be that fast on paper, even when it's costly to do and doesn't really need it.

> This is the best kind of open source trickledown.

We shouldn't be depending on trickledown anything. It's nice to see Valve contributing back, but we all need to remember that they can totally evaporate/vanish behind proprietary licensing at any time.

From what I read, it was a lot of the prosumer/gamer brands (MSI, Gigabyte, ASUS) implementing their part of sleep/hibernate badly on their motherboards. Which honestly lines up with my experience with them and other chips they use (in my case, USB controllers). Lots of RGB and maybe overclocking tech, but the cheapest power management and connectivity chips they can get (arguably what usually gets used the most by people).

This is a part of Secure Boot, which Linux people have raged against for a long time. Mostly because the main key signing authority was Microsoft.

But here's my rub: no one else bothered to step up to be a key signer. Everyone has instead whined for 15 years and told people to disable Secure Boot and the loads of trusted compute tech that depends on it, instead of actually building and running the necessary infra for everyone to have a Secure Boot authority outside of big tech. Not even Red Hat/IBM even though they have the infra to do it.

Secure Boot and signed kernels are proven tech. But the Linux world absolutely needs to pull their heads out of their butts on this.

Oh yeah for sure. Linux is amazing in a computer science sense, but it still can't beat Windows' vertically integrated registry/GPO based permissions system. Group/Local Policy especially, since it's effectively a zero coding required system.

Ubuntu just recently got a way to automate its installer (recently being during covid). I think you can do the same on RHEL too. But that's largely it on Linux right now. If you need to admin 10,000+ computers, Windows is still the king.

> Element has ended up focusing on digitally-sovereign govtech (https://element.io/en/sectors) in order to prevail, and it's left a hole in the market.

And unless they have verifiable testimonials, I'd take their reach with a grain of salt. Anyone can plaster a bunch of public domain government and defense logos all over their website.

> Do Google's organization challenges cost them Chrome users?

On the Enterprise side at least, absolutely.

> It is a wonderful world fill of variety, choice and diversity

Desktop Linux is a dysfunctional dumpster fire that cyber bullies anyone that even suggests building code to a specific OS.

Remember that Linux is just the kernel, not the whole OS. The fact that a program written for Ubuntu, for example, can even run on another Linux based OS is a happy coincidence and should not be an expectation.

> I think Firefox has a sizable minority of users that are aware of its importance

Agreed.

> and would donate for "a fucking browser".

Hard disagree. Especially when you consider that much of Firefox's use likely comes from countries that tend to opportunistically freeload whenever they can. Idk if your donation-only idea would even work for the US and Canada alone.

Edge still has a ton of stuff specific to Windows in it, mostly for business/enterprise use. It is probably the most no-code configurable browser out there if you go through Group Policy, with an effective guarantee that all of those settings will work (including the settings that disable all Telemetry data collection - yes those exist).

The 100% no-code part of the config process is something I have not seen largely in competing browsers - even Chrome.