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They'll convert to your card's currency automatically and the option to revert is hidden behind an inconspicuous "See other currency options" prompt
/sarcasm
/but is it really?
This, in practice, means that the US government controls the mentioned tokens for the moment. What happens with them depends entirely on the outcome of the investigation.
[1] - https://www.forbes.com/sites/brandonkochkodin/2023/03/31/us-...
EDIT: I see now that you were actually comparing the case of USDT freeze against Bitcoin seizures. Nevertheless, Tether doesn't simply get to keep the USD value of the frozen tokens. US government would want to recover that.
Joking aside, my feelings about it are mixed. I have fond memories of good laughs and parties with friends, but also can't help but notice a lot of black outs and hangovers the day after :) don't get me wrong though, if you are a tourist, you should definitely experience it.
keep it up guys!
I have never been so pessimistic about the future of the world as I am today.
I have since learned to live with it. In the same way that I live with the fact that crypto is full of grifters, I've learned to live with the fact that majority of the world has a very narrow view of what the space is about. The only thing that I find unfortunate now-a-days is how quick people are to turn towards radical thoughts and approaches, without even considering that they might not know what they are talking about.
edit: the ad says up to 24/32GB of ram, but seems like 8gb/16gb models are the only ones available for pre-order at the moment.
https://twitter.com/binance/status/1602708590271385600?s=20&...
Conversions are even announced when you go to deposit USDC:
"Please note that your USDC Deposit will be auto-converted to BUSD at a 1:1 Ratio. Please refer to announcement details. https://www.binance.com/en/support/announcement/e62f703604a9..."
I don't see how your point holds, besides "customer expected X, but got Y" - but this is because customer is misinformed, not because Binance has an obligation to store USDC 1:1 (in this case).
Although, in practice, I don't think they would buy USDC via BUSD, but use their cash reserves for that. The cash reserves correspond (allegedly) 1:1 to BUSD so they would need to burn equivalent amount of BUSD as well. This all means that Binance would always value BUSD at 1 USD. I don't see a scenario where BUSD falls to 0.5usd if there are no shenanigans happening with the cash reserves.
...that's what I said?
> What? Someone trusted Binance to store USDC. The conversions should not have happened.
Conversions were announced timely. See https://www.binance.com/en/support/faq/what-is-busd-auto-con...
> No. Nobody is expecting that. You're the only person that mentioned it.
Its the logical conclusion of people expecting Binance to hold full USDC deposit amounts, even when most/all USDC was converted to BUSD.
BUSD is just USD denominated in tokens on chain, each token represents 1 usd at their bank so they cannot (or rather, should not) mint more than they have in custody.
This is not true in any way. First, you do not hold USDC on Binance, you hold BUSD. Your USDC deposits are automatically converted to BUSD. Neither USDT nor BUSD is "hard" to convert to real dollars. Swap them to USDC on Uniswap and do whatever you please with them.
> - Binance is obviously not prepared for a bank run, this is happening on a Monday/Tuesday, not even a weekend, and the withdrawals issued started yesterday while the banks where open! As of this post, USDC withdrawals have been suspended for at least 14 hours!
As I said, you can withdraw in other stablecoins. If you go to a bank, and you cannot withdraw USD at that moment, but you can withdraw EUR - does that mean the bank is insolvent?
Nobody said BUSD == USDC. But comparing it to UST (an algorithmic stablecoin nonetheless) is, at best, misleading.
- Binance suspended USDC withdrawals. You can still withdraw in other stablecoins, fiat, or crypto. You can withdraw BUSD and swap to USDC on another exchange (dex). So really, this is not a big deal.
- The reason why this happened is - a while ago, Binance started automatically converting user USDC to BUSD upon deposits. Since then, we've then seen large amounts of USDC being sent to Circle from Binance, supposedly for redemption purposes.
- This now (likely) means that Binance has a lot of cash on hand, but not enough USDC to process the current withdrawal frenzy. So they have to go to their redemption bridge and convert their cash back to USDC. As such, the explanation given by CZ is very plausible.
- Withdrawal suspensions are not an uncommon occurrence on Binance, or any other exchange for that matter. You are only noticing this now because the market participants suffer from PTSD from other exchanges going under and the effect of the news is amplified.
- The fear seems to be largely coming from people associating the withdrawal suspension with the recent FTX fiasco. However, and especially without understanding the context of those suspensions, its important to remember - correlation does not mean causation.
- It also comes from people expecting Binance to have USDC at 1:1 ratio liquid, but thats not the case due to the auto conversion mentioned, and explained, by Binance.
- Its also worth noting that BUSD is not a Binance product. Its managed by Paxos, which is a separate entity.
Ultimately, the r/r here is clear: it takes little effort to withdraw and stay safe, but the downside is huge if Binance goes under. So its natural for people to decide to withdraw even when chances of it blowing up are slim.
Withdraw your coins if you are worried, preferably via fiat to a bank. But, please, don't go around spreading panic about things you don't understand or lack the context to judge.