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It's easy to win arguments when you get to put words in the other person's mouth. Congratulations! Victory is yours!
Are these quotas or just nudges? It's hard to say. But I've been in the room when decisions like this were made, by institutions that are legally barred from even considering race. But in reality, race wasn't just part of the decision, it was determinative.
> Every couple of years, someone who doesn’t know what they’re talking about complains publicly that judging panels are picking books based on wokeness or diversity quotas or some other nonsense.
OK, so the judging panels are not picking books based on diversity quotas, cool. But then she admits that the longlists are subject to diversity quotas:
> It’s true that longlists don’t look like they used to. This might have to do with prize committees themselves finally diversifying, which means a broader variety of opinions and tastes. And it might have to do with all of us preferring books that, you know, do not sound like every other book we’ve read.
> It turns out that when we read broadly and fairly, it’s no longer true that 95% of prizes go to straight white men, go figure.
To be honest, I don't pay much attention to book prizes, but I'm well aware of claims that it's not just that "white men don't get 95% of prizes anymore" but rather that in some cases, white men are not included at all, despite making up a fairly large chunk of the population. For example, apparently no white men born in the last 40 years have published literary fiction in the New Yorker. [1]
Are there book prizes with similar track records? I don't know for sure, but I'd imagine that whoever is deciding on publishing at the New Yorker is probably pretty similar to the people handing out book awards.
1: https://www.compactmag.com/article/the-vanishing-white-male-...
I'm pretty sure I have never cared about what values a company listed on its careers page, unless I am considering working there.
Even if most of the people who were disciplined are from URM groups, that doesn't prove racially-biased enforcement.
It did cost taxpayers millions of dollars, and I assume that only a fraction of that will ever be repaid by the perpetrators.
1: https://www.mprnews.org/story/2025/09/24/feeding-our-future-...
1: https://www.theverge.com/2025/1/27/24352968/pebble-smartwatc...
I don't use checks often but have to buy a box in order to have >0.
You're moving the goalpost here and pretending that neopronouns is not that big an issue. But it's obviously just part of the gender ideology issue, which was clearly part of the reason Trump won.
I can see that there are still people out there with their heads in the sand. I wonder who you'll help elect next time around?
1: https://www.megynkelly.com/2024/11/11/survey-finds-trans-iss...
So getting people to use preferred pronouns was a bit of a Pyrrhic victory in my book.
There is also additional work in remembering which pronoun to use with which NB person. With most people, you just automatically say the right thing.
If we want better cities and towns, zealotry won't get us very far. It will get us laughed at. And I say this as someone who walks all the time and is about to do so right now.