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It's better to feel punished now when your illfound gains are equalised to the people who lost out for you to have them, than to continue punishing the people who lost out forever because you don't have the humility to say "yeah my ancesters were probably wrong about this"

> No clue if that's true, apparently two high schools in Cleveland got merged in 2017 due to segregation. Anyway..

"No clue" might be the best I'll get, if you want to look it up and learn it's Duval County, Florida which integrated in 1999.

If hiring managers are, subconsciously or not, more likely to pick the male candidate when faced with a choice for equally capable male/female candidates then there is inherent discrimination in the process and the DEI approach balances the scale.

This means more women working these roles with the same capability as men, it doesn't mean replacing men with women who are worse at the job, which ironically is an attitude making up part of the reason efforts like this have to be made.

This means they have been generationally disadvantaged compared to you. It means they have had worse social mobility. By the time Obama rolled around there had only been four black US senators in its history.

The US's historic (and ongoing!) poor treatment of its people based on skin colour is so obvious from the outside that I struggle to understand how you don't see it. The government can snap into action for Florida but cannot find its energy for New Orleans, and many other such interesting coincedences.

> done by their ancestors long enough ago that most have no real life recollection of it anymore.

The last US school to desegregated did it in the 1990s, it very much is within memory.

Do you have a rationalisation for your disagreement, or is this a throw away comment you don't care about?

Sure, if you're up front and honest from the beginning then some users will do that, the majority are likely to go for other offerings which don't suffer this problem. Vanishingly few users are going to be cool with features disappearing and then reappearing later on with a price tag attached, which is the scenario we're talking about.

In reality, 99.9% of the users are going to be using whatever free thing is available and your project will live for just about as long as you personally care about it. Rightly or wrongly, the maintainer's work/life balance isn't on the forefront of your mind when you're looking at npm packages, no amount of grandstanding will change that.

If the point is good stewardship of the product, deleting features that users clearly need only to replace with a for-pay version stinks possibly only slightly less than deprecating features users clearly need and then replacing with nothing. Both of these things mean your product sucks.

You're of course free to do it, just as I'm free continue to use other products which do not do this.

I don't really have much of a response beyond this.

I think the crucial difference is that I do actually see evidence (ie the codebase) posted sometimes for the former, the latter could well be entirely mythos -- a 24 day old account evangelizing for the legion of agents story does kind of fit the theme.

I feel like this is a bit of an https://xkcd.com/2501/ situation.

C is considered easy to pick up for the average user posting HN comments because we have the benefit of years -- the average comp sci student, who has been exposed to Javascript and Python, who might not know what "pass by reference" even means... I'm not sure they're going to be considering C easy.

If we were civil engineers it would be shocking for the public to learn that we are sometimes ordered build the bridges terribly on purpose, for something like the purpose that it influences people toward using toll roads -- when in the world of software engineering not only has this kind of anti-user (anti-human) behaviour become commonplace but actually it's increasingly the only novel work we do between gluing other people's code together.

There is no reasonable response once you turn the conversation into this, please don't do that.

You'll open link to find a website that does not at all claim math is racist, but instead claims that it has been unequally taught for years. Which makes complete sense, as the racial gap in Math attainment in the US isn't replicated in other countries -- in the UK GCSE Maths levels for black students hover around or slightly above those of white students.

A nazi person is a supremacist. A woke person... Is what? There's no consistency about what that is at all. I've seen the word woke applied to vegetarian pizza toppings. It literally has no meaning beyond being a snarl word.

I'd be looking at breaking up food conglomerates first personally.

We can tell that this is right and logical because the number of insects, a population more sensitive to environmental trends, hasn't visibly and obviously changed at all.

The point is that this is poor default user experience, and it should not be this way.