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Olav's comment about google plus and mailing lists suggest to me that Felipe has been on a crusade about this topic and using and soap box he could find. As any sort of community or project admin, the behavior of being told no and the constantly raising the issue and trying to drum up support is really annoying and likely to result in this type of situation.
I mean, I haven't used gnome in years or followed the community, but just reading the OP's post defending himself made me want to ban him. We can argue all day about a platonic world of argument and enlightenment where tone doesn't matter... But we live in the real world with real people.
(ie. you can be less transparent by spending your time doing rather than talking.)
That's basically the inverse of my attitude when I back a kickstarter. I generally support what they're doing, believe that they are going to try and make the thing they said, and then just trust that they'll eventually deliver something.
I mean, you could question their willingness to work at the company. But, working on the latest sim city sounds like a fun project and people like paychecks.
I don't think there is an age limit on being bullied. And while nobody can make us feel a certain way, they can certainly create an environment where it's an uphill struggle to remain positive.
Guess what happened? I clicked on TWO SEPARATE ADS with a download now image in them.
I captured it because I assume the ads change, but wow, terrible: https://www.evernote.com/shard/s3/sh/78c81dc2-0a90-4e0a-8676...
I eventually found the files link, and then clicked a download. And was taken to download page where I had to wait for my download to start, with some more ads.
Yeah, screw that.
I've built plenty of things for clients that I thought were of dubious value, but I always tell them my concerns and push them to iterate through the project to avoid getting in too deep.
Sometimes, I've been wrong about the value.
And sometimes, as the post suggests, I've said no.
I don't think either is a wrong, as long as you are honest from the get go.
Many states add some rules to the providers, often to your benefit.
If you have any pre-existing conditions, having continuos coverage is really important in many states, as it prevents companies from denying coverage for those conditions... in many states even if you change providers, as long as you have some coverage.
In New York, where I am, after a lot of research, I ended up joining a chamber of commerce with my company and enrolling my company (me) in a group HMO plan.
This cost me 1535 a month last year, and will cost 1680 a month this year. This covers basically everything, most prescriptions, numerous tests and treatments my family has needed because of pre-existing conditions. (I pay $300 a year to be in the chamber, as well.)
Note: If my company had an employee and I wasn't a sole proprietor, these rates would be 10-15% less.
If I didn't know we would hit the deductible, I would have been on a high deductible plan. If you hit the 10k deductible on the plans I looked at, it costs the same as the plan we are on, you just may end up paying the whole thing up-front.
So, in short, New York, family comprehensive co-pay plan, 20k a year.
(Do COBRA as long as you can, first, if you can. COBRA will almost always be cheaper because your former employer will be a group and have better rates.)
I mean. If that's truly a concern, it seems like you need to own and configure your own physical hardware and require VPN access to all of them. For us/me, the cost and inconvenience isn't worth it, considering the basically valueless data to an outsider.
That's not to say that everyone decision matrix is the same or should be... As you mention.
And my coworkers really love the web client. And some use xmpp. Many of us regularly use the iOS app. I guess that's one of the strength's of hipchat, the variety of access methods that all feel basically first-class. (and one person on our team even uses the SMS integration.)
1) It proved to be a pain supporting the non-techies using IRC
2) Nobody wanted to maintain the IRC server and set up logging. (And, if you add up the couple hours to do so and maintain it in a year, hipchat ends up being a good deal)
3) Some of our people use the SMS and xmpp integration, which makes it easily fit into their existing communications.
4) The API, web based search, gui admin, github integration, unfuddle integration, etc are already setup and/or written (an extension of #2)
5) Nice handling of large chunks of pasted text. (The web and desktop clients format them in fixed width properly and limit the size but provide and expand link.) This is more convenient than pasting a pastebin link, and works better than irc because of line breaks.
I mean, basic economics as well. If someone spends an hour a year maintaining the IRC server, helping non-tech people get onto IRC, etc, then paying for hipchat instead, for 4-8 people is well worth it each year.
(This is all after having used a channel on a public irc server, then someone set up IRC on a vps, then we used grove , and ended up on hipchat for the past year.)
I guess my only complaint would be that it feels long to type because it is three words. (Even though the are short words.)
> I don't mean to discourage you at all, just let the product speak and not your age.
C'mon, really?
I'm much more interested in the story of a 15-year old developer creating and publishing something, than I am in yet another node module.
> Imagine someone of 36 made this module and included his age.
Yes, that would probably be dumb. But 15 is not 36. Lots of people write programs at a young age. Not many publish them on the internet, at least historically. I was writing programs at that age, but I wasn't publishing them.
Heck, even just from the "hack the social system of hacker news by including age" angle this fits with many posts we see here regularly.
What I find is that I don't really rely on syntax highlighting for find my way around the code or understanding it. I rely on it to tell me when I didn't properly close a string literal, or a comment, or fat-fingered a keyword. So, I generally enable it when I can, and find that it makes me more productive.
Excluding back-seat systems engineers on sites like this, I suspect that most of their customers will be a bit upset, but give them the benefit of the doubt and be glad to pay slightly less monthly (or nothing for Trello) and suffer a short outage.
I think there's something to your post, but the tone makes me want to dismiss it. I know, stupid emotions.
This internet lynch mob mentality... I wonder how much this discourages people from releasing things. So, Gruber releases markdown.pl. People like it. People love it. People use it, people reuse it, people rewrite it. Next think you know, he's being insulted on the internet because he released something he wrote to serve his needs and not passing on some sort of figurative mantle or blessing.
Sent me to: https://payments.amazon.com/sdui/sdui/about?nodeId=201033780...
a : to obtain by energetic activity <hustle up new customers>
Seems like a pretty common use of the term in the sense of "that scrappy start-up showed quite a bit of hustle to pull it off."I browse by category.