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Where have we seen this before..
Why
Yo can we drop the whole “our government executes on the will of the people charade”. If you think your average American has any say in their governments foreign policy I have a bridge to sell you.
Are these IP thefts or technology transfers? If corporations are having their IP stolen, why don’t they just leave?
These narratives never explain or mention this. Idk why people still latch onto them, they are completely uninteresting “China is stealing all our IP and there’s nothing we can do about it except for continuing to allow our IP to be stolen” is an IQ test and trope.
Does “theft of IP” outweigh, or not, “access to very cheap labor (read: jobs)” ?
We need to stop simping for corporations and start thinking critically about these things.
Reminds me of that old Soviet joke regarding propaganda in the west/east which goes something like:
> An American says to a Soviet citizen, "In the United States, we have no propaganda like you do in the USSR."
> The Soviet citizen responds, "Exactly! In the USSR, we know it's propaganda."
Surely this is already ironed out, no? What are laws regarding transcriptions?
Unless you’re high up in one of the MIC companies I need to disagree.
Who’s the “we”? Countries on the receiving end of “foreign ‘aid’”? Americans receiving improvements to their standards and quality of life because government expenditures are made on infrastructure and services instead of warring?
Wasn’t 1.6B just approved to fund anti-CN disinformation/propaganda?
I guess if a large part of the world’s population, domestic and international, doesn’t fall within your definition of “we” then sure.
> calm and not emotional
As an aside, is it really so hard to ask not to get bombarded with state department red scare propaganda anytime anything CN pops up? OP happens to be from CN, shares his work, and CPC comments are made.
There’s a serious lack of empathy around these parts and there really doesn’t need to be.
Their products are unreliable so we have to hit them with import tariffs?
If it weren’t for the protectionist tariffs the west has imposed on them, I would seriously consider a Chinese EV, maybe a Zeeker or Byd.
It’s kind of irrelevant that Open > close source. Many other comments have pointed this out, yours included but the issue at hand here is the remarks regarding OPs nationality/origin. If you want your ideas validated there are tons of comments in this thread doing so, you don’t need me to agree with it. I personally prefer OS, but don’t have any issues with closed source software. However, that’s not the issue at hand.
Comments like these and follow-ups like “yeah but actually it’s closed source”, that don’t immediately call out racism, end up normalizing this type of behavior which is not acceptable.
Would you also have sidestepped the obvious racism had OP been from Africa?
Say yes to OS software and no to racism, it shouldn't need to be said that ignoring racist remarks and/or glossing over them like they aren’t there promotes/enables that behavior.
> And the developer lives in...China. Hard pass.
This isn’t complex. Parent is rejecting OP’s work because he’s from China, not because it’s closed source, otherwise he would have mentioned it, he didn’t and now you’re acting as though _you_ mentioning open source should also somehow apply to OP?
I’m referring specifically to OP, not sure why you’re muddying the waters with “well not all HN posts say x,y”.
Again, the point I’m making is that we’re even entertaining the discussion because of the target country.
Let’s not dance around the topic, the whole “take head” thread has to do with CN, not because it’s closed source else he may have mentioned it, but he didn’t.