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For your amusement. Here's the code that was SUPPOSED to fix the bug: https://github.com/livewire/livewire/blob/0b3feda46a9dd6ad19...
https://github.com/livewire/livewire/blob/0b3feda46a9dd6ad19...
And here's the podcast I recorded a while back on what a pain it is: https://laravel-livewire.com/podcasts/ep65-safari-sucks-here...
Alpine comes out of the server-rendered-app (Laravel/Rails/Django) and static site context. It's important to recognize that.
To me, Alpine fills a hole in between vanilla JS (or jQuery) and large v-dom frameworks like Vue/React.
I personally think the complexity/overhead of Vue/React/Etc. doesn't justify its value in a lot of cases for me. Often, I'm adding simple interactions to server-rendered pages. Things like dropdowns, modals, dynamic inputs, other reactive doo-dads...
By using something like Alpine, I get to keep the data-driven reactivity and declarative template expressions of VueJs, but without all the overhead. (and without a virtual-dom)
I thought Stimulus would be the framework for me, but I personally felt I was doing too many manual DOM-manipulations and my code felt more imperative than I like.
In my opinion, Alpine is unique in these ways:
- You can use it without maintaining a separate JS file or <script> tag (although you can easily break code out into separate files and such if you need to)
- It doesn't use a virtual-dom at all and uses MutationObserver to react to DOM manipulations from outside JS (something like Turbolinks, third-party libs, or your own hand-written JS). This makes it very resilient. It won't crumble if you touch the real DOM.
- It's lightweight. It's under 5kb g-zipped.
- It has a really nice API for listening for and dispatching native browser Event/CustomEvents rather than using its own event system. This makes it a really powerful tool for interacting with third-party libs.
It's not a tool for everyone. It's not a Vue or React killer. (although it might be a Stimulus killer lol)
If it speaks to you, great. You and I are similar.
If not, understandable too. Different tools for different contexts.
Thanks everyone for chiming in!