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byrneseyeview··on When Banks Use Facebook Friends To Determine Your Credit Score
It's very hard to argue against this. Either your social network is a good signal, or it's not. If it's not a good signal, the people who use this information are going to lose money--they will quite literally pay for being wrong.

But if it does work, then overall mortgage rates will marginally decline. Better information will lead to better choices, so mortgages will become less risky overall. Some people will suffer, but keep in mind that when those people oppose this, they are saying "I want to hide material information from the people with whom I do business; if they knew the truth about me, I would get a worse deal." That's fraud.

Yes, there will be false positives. And it's easier to visualize being the victim of one of those than it is to visualize the tiny collective improvement in human welfare that tends to result from better decisions.

I would be interested in an argument that applies in this specific case, but doesn't apply to the general class of rough but useful heuristics, like "Kids with bad grades who drive recklessly are probably less responsible than 40-year-old moms who drive minivans, even though there is some C-student with a red car who is safer than some particular 40-year-old minivan-driving mom."

byrneseyeview··on When Truth Survives Free Speech
Thank you for the correction. I'd been using terminology ineffectively. The way I was taught it was:

- An algorithm is a step-by-step process for transforming any valid input into a specific valid output. - A heuristic is a process that brings you closer to something that looks like an answer, but does not necessarily find the best possible answer.

byrneseyeview··on An Ode to a 'Poor Black Kid' I Never Knew: How Forbes Gets Poverty Wrong
This article alludes to the "bee sting" theory of poverty (see http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2008/03/30/... ).

That brings up an interesting question: in historical terms, the subject of this story is quite well-off; he's not always physically at risk, he has ready access to probably non-toxic food, he has shelter, etc. Over a long enough timeline, his life is pretty good. Even his home situation--mom is a prostitute, but he can't tell anyone lest the authorities separate them--is in all likelihood less common than it might have been centuries ago.

So if these conditions are so awful that we can't possibly expect people to improve without fixing said conditions, how do we explain historical economic growth. We're descended from people who had really miserable lives: sleep in a cave, hope you can hunt or gather enough food to stay alive, go to sleep hungry more often than not, risk death by infection every time you get a cut that's more than skin deep, and reproduce through what any modern person would call serial rape. Beings that were physiologically human (basically us, but probably lactose intolerant) had to deal with all of those circumstances, and managed to bequeath to the next generation some slightly less miserable circumstances.

It comes back to the anthropic principle: if misery is a strong disincentive for progress, how did we progress to the point that we have leisure time to discuss this?

(I've asked the same question on Quora here: http://www.quora.com/How-do-adherents-to-the-bee-sting-theor... . I am very interested in the answers.)

byrneseyeview··on When Truth Survives Free Speech
Yeah, that's more of a heuristic for determining the health of an infant. An algorithmic approach would give you a definite yes-or-no for all baby inputs.

And the analogy breaks down here because the online ecosystem adapts very fast. It would work if there was some sort of gene that led to premature births plus high Apgar scores (the equivalent of a malicious website that ranks well).

That's why search is so tough: search engines and gaming have coevolved to the point that in plenty of areas, search quality would go down if people weren't trying to game the algorithm.

byrneseyeview··on Y Combinator vs TechStars: Whose Companies Are Bringing In More Funding?
The usual equation for startups is "This has a small chance to change the world." Fiddling around with the non-world-changing outcomes is premature optimization, since the best exits come from failing to change the world and merely creating a viable business (look at Paypal; they wanted to upend the world's financial system, and instead they had a billion-plus exit facilitating Beanie Baby trades).

The median is more representative of what a founder's expected financial return is, but many folks aren't optimizing for that. If they are, you need to look at the off-balance-sheet asset: the six-figure job offer from Google, FB, MS, Yahoo, etc. etc. etc. that is generally available to people of the viable startup-starting caliber.

Since the mean startup return is so driven by a small number of massively successful outliers, it makes economic sense that the median outcome will not look so great. (If startups presented a good chance of being as good as the next best option, plus a small chance of F-U money, nobody would work anywhere else.)

byrneseyeview··on When Truth Survives Free Speech
Are there really algorithms for judging the truth? I think the closest we can get is heuristics for identifying whether or not something is being actively deceptive, but it's a big epistemological leap to say that we can definitely determine truth in an algorithmic way.

Google is very good in these situations, but Google has a hard time differentiating between a popular movement and a single determined astroturfer. I'm sure Google would rather display a commitment to good journalism ("You want to know about topic X? Here's what people are saying about it.") rather than a pursuit of the truth, at least when it comes to organic results.

byrneseyeview··on Y Combinator vs TechStars: Whose Companies Are Bringing In More Funding?
For funding, the median is less useful. I wouldn't be surprised if the median series A returned a loss.

If optimizing for the median outcome is your goal, VC funding is probably not a good plan.

byrneseyeview··on Poll: Do you use an adblocker?
Part of it is competitive intelligence. I want to know who's doing big ad buys on Huffpo and FoxNews and the NYT.

Agencies have gotten very clever at measuring the indirect effect of ads; most of them don't get a direct click, of course, but you can still look at things like how likely someone was to search for your company's brand name the week after they saw the ad.

byrneseyeview··on Poll: Do you use an adblocker?
Banner ads pay my salary, so out of professional courtesy, no.

It's very easy to voluntarily blind yourself to ads. Plus, if I see something egregious on my employer's site, I can let them know.

I use Ghostery to see who's buying data from whom.

byrneseyeview··on If Everyone Else is Such an Idiot, How Come You're Not Rich?
Wealth does correlate with intelligence:

http://www.quora.com/What-is-the-covariance-between-cognitiv...

The phrase "does not necessarily correlate" needs some unpacking. I think anyone would agree that for N=2 that's true, but for higher numbers it would indicate sample error.

byrneseyeview··on Wall Street and hedge fund analyst: "Financial markets are rigged"
Better title:

"Anonymous Internet commentator: Here's a bunch of common knowledge you can glean from any basic investment book. I'll omit the half that makes my argument look bad. Also, I can pretend to be someone who wouldn't naturally agree with you."

I don't know why the Internet eats this stuff up. It might be fun to go to conservative-monoculture forums and start posting: "I am an OWS organizer. I'm only here to appear more virtuous than my friends, and also to sleep with girls who have weird piercings and tattoos."

Politics articles in general are an utter black hole for intelligent discussion, but this one is also a portal into a completely new dimension of pointlessness.

byrneseyeview··on Sean Parker: “Little Startups Are Ridiculously OverFunded”
The command economy argument is a subset of the transaction cost argument. Lots of people have long-term plans, and some of those plans involve extensive cooperation from third parties. Companies are a smart abstraction for coordinating this behavior, but that's not all they do.
byrneseyeview··on Zynga to employees: Give back our stock or you'll be fired
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3221693

This is a very relevant alternative view. Money quote:

At Zynga, however, Mark Pincus apparently likes to do things a bit differently. Rather than simply firing under-performing employees and handing unvested options over to the replacement, Pincus often likes to find another position within Zynga where the employee might still be able to contribute. But because that new position was often lower down the corporate totem poll, Pincus basically wanted to cut the person's compensation by reducing his or her number of unvested options (vested options were not touched).

byrneseyeview··on Politically Incorrect: Spec Work
I know a company that did this. They found a big client, and did a small project at breakeven. Result: the client was impressed, so now one of their biggest clients is paying breakeven rates; factor in the cost of flying an account person out to the client's headquarters, dropping everything when they change their minds about something, etc., and it's a big drag on growth.

Whenever I heard about this, I fantasized about being VP of marketing at basically any big company. Being on the other side of that transaction is surely a lot of fun.

byrneseyeview··on Groupon Prices I.P.O. at $20 a Share
I used to think it was an industry with low barriers to entry, as did lots of people who have lost lots of money on Groupon clones. I'm not sure why, but it turns out to be a really tough business for all but a few companies.
byrneseyeview··on Groupon Prices I.P.O. at $20 a Share
That argument is sort of like a chess strategy that starts with "If I get four moves in a row, I can checkmate my opponent."

Nobody is denying the basic facts you've cited, so it'll be very hard for you to find someone whose ignorance of those facts you can use to your advantage. Groupon won't be as liquid as, e.g., AMZN. But buyers and sellers both know that.

And selling pressure is intrinsically short-term; Groupon's underlying value is completely independent of the number and motivation of selling shareholders. In a Bayesian sense, you could respond to insider selling--except that insiders are almost always selling, and the more successful the company is, the more they ought to sell. The biggest insider sellers are, by necessity, the founders of the biggest and most successful companies.

byrneseyeview··on You are the nth person alive on earth
Is this accounting for immigration? The US has the same issue: the white population reproduces at barely above or barely below replacement (it varies), but immigrants have much higher fertility. And, weirdly enough, comparable infant mortality.
byrneseyeview··on You are the nth person alive on earth
But pollution per marginal dollar of GDP per capita is lower. That could just be an artifact of the rich world relatively de-industrializing: as the US gets more Facebooks and Starbuckses, China gets more steel mills. But it also seems that one luxury rich countries pay for is lower pollution relative to GDP.
byrneseyeview··on If you can't remember why onions are in there, take 'em out.
GK Chesterton tells a similar, but sort of contradictory, story:

In the matter of reforming things, as distinct from deforming them, there is one plain and simple principle; a principle which will probably be called a paradox. There exists in such a case a certain institution or law; let us say, for the sake of simplicity, a fence or gate erected across a road. The more modern type of reformer goes gaily up to it and says, "I don't see the use of this; let us clear it away." To which the more intelligent type of reformer will do well to answer: "If you don't see the use of it, I certainly won't let you clear it away. Go away and think. Then, when you can come back and tell me that you do see the use of it, I may allow you to destroy it."

In most technology fields, it seems like Onion Theory works: we can gradually get rid of the hacks we used to get round limitations. But when you're dealing with people and institutions, Fence Theory dominates: human interactions have lots of complicated nth-order effects.

Onion Theory and Fence Theory are deeply similar. In both cases, the point is: be aware of practices that don't make sense. Either they illustrate long-ago hacks and compromises, or they tell you something important but non-obvious about the nature of what you're doing.

byrneseyeview··on IQ Isn't Set In Stone, Suggests Study That Finds Big Jumps, Dips In Teens
Right, but there's a glaring statistical error. Schools are very stratified by skill level. So you may have someone with a 1550 and a 2.5 HS GPA, sitting next to someone with a 1300 and a 3.8 HS GPA. One smart slacker, one hard worker who isn't quite so facile.

Of course SAT scores won't be predictive in that case. You'd want to look at SAT scores controlling for other admissions factors, which is basically SAT scores controlling for every variable admissions cares about, which of course means that no variable in particular has predictive power.

But if you want to see how strongly SAT scores correlate with academic performance, the way to do it would be to take some students who belong at, e.g., ASU, and somehow sneak them into Harvard.

byrneseyeview··on Groupon To Sell 30M Shares At $16-$18 A Pop
That 6-7% is 6-7% of the offering price, not the day's closing price. So the statement "In this way the bank could artificially jack up the new company’s price," is the opposite of the truth: in this way, the bank lowers its fee in exchange for a first-day price increase. That's marketing: Goldman wants to be able to sell the next IPO, so they try to pay off their customers. And that means they can promise e.g. Groupon that they'll have enough buyers.

As usually, Taibbi is vaguely correct (investment banking is a middleman between two groups that are individually worse-informed than the bank is). But he either doesn't understand how this actually works, or deliberately obscures the facts in order to make his point slightly stronger.

byrneseyeview··on IQ Isn't Set In Stone, Suggests Study That Finds Big Jumps, Dips In Teens
Doesn't that seem kind of redundant? "People who do well on IQ tests have systematic advantages which allow them to do well on IQ tests, but IQ tests are meaningless."

Obviously, it's possible to imagine a world in which IQ is not largely heritable, and in which rich people pay lots of money to game their kids' IQ numbers, and then the kids somehow use these IQ test numbers to get better jobs (even though IQ testing from employers is basically illegal).

But we can adjust for that. I'd be happy to do the same bet controlling for parental socio-economic status.

byrneseyeview··on An open letter to Peter Thiel
Me first, indeed. That's what I did; it works.

That's also a completely different argument from the one I was addressing. It sounds like your version is that 18 to 22-year-olds are too dangerous to be unleashed on society (the person getting the "operation" in your analogy), so we need to send them to school to keep them out of trouble.

But I don't understand why school is a better alternative than the job market.

byrneseyeview··on IQ Isn't Set In Stone, Suggests Study That Finds Big Jumps, Dips In Teens
I'll take the other side of that bet!

What kind of odds would you give me that a group of people in the 10th percentile will have a higher average income than a group of people from the 90th percentile? If all IQ measures is your ability to take an IQ test, I think you'd be pretty confident that the bottom 10% will perform about as well as the top 10%. So, would you up up for 1:1 odds on that?

If you're willing to bet consistently with your beliefs, please get in touch; my email address is in my profile.

byrneseyeview··on Google to default to SSL version for logged in users
It's a rare search that takes me to a page that mentions what I'm searching for exactly once.

Search result pages and destination pages serve completely different purposes, and you can't apply the same UI to both. If you ran a restaurant, you might decide to laminate the menus, but I hope you wouldn't laminate the entrees, too.

byrneseyeview··on Dropbox: The Inside Story Of Tech's Hottest Startup
It was almost certainly a joke. Avoid sarcasm when talking to journalists; some quotes, out of context, are too good to pass up.
byrneseyeview··on Ask PG: Is there any chance of getting points displayed again
Reddit does "ninja bans" where a banned user can see his submissions, but others can't. Could you do that with arguments and long threads in general? If there's a lag of 10*2^n minutes before seeing replies in a thread n messages long, arguments will fizzle; nobody can stay specifically mad that long.
byrneseyeview··on An open letter to Peter Thiel
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1055153

r/K selection is a nice addition to the mental toolbox. (I learned about it while in high school, because I cut class to hang out in the library.)

There is a difference between liking an outcome (people who have the intellectual tools necessary to contribute to society) and being wedded to any particular means (ever more students going to ever larger institutions to spend ever more money learning ever, ever less).

byrneseyeview··on An open letter to Peter Thiel
Civilization has gotten more complex in some ways. But the modern world shields us from a lot of other complexity: how many poisonous plants and dangerous animals do you need to identify? How many social/religious rituals do you need to perform completely perfectly lest you be ostracized from society?

One of the limiting factors on early-stage civilizations is that it takes pretty much a lifetime to transmit information from one generation to the next; between books, specialization, urbanization, and price signals (which are basically an API on human desires and the resources necessary to fulfill them), we need far less general knowledge than we used to.

byrneseyeview··on An open letter to Peter Thiel
Does Khan Academy also provide an atmosphere where students can study, party, hook up, make mistakes, and otherwise learn how to become members of society?

You know what provides that atmosphere? New York. Or SF. Or Boston, Seattle, Austin--pretty much any city. I did not miss out on those opportunities from dropping out. The difference was that I was in the real world that colleges theoretically prepare you for: no RAs, no meal plans, fewer second chances, etc. I don't know why a fake version of the real world is a better preparation for the real world that the real real world.

There was one other difference: not going to school is far, far cheaper. And you have enough free time to defray even that minimal cost by working.

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