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I’m more sympathetic to the more general view that education is not the business of state governments, period.
I agree.
But maybe the question you are proposing is the following, “Is it possible to identify a sensation that is always present?”.
Maybe this question is coherent? I’m not sure.
Suppose it isn’t possible to identify a sensation that is always present. Then wouldn’t that mean the state of having no sensations is identical to the state of only having sensations that are always present?
A: You know, the feeling of what it is like to be something.
B: sits quietly, looks at ceiling Right, yeah, that feeling.
From a different angle, if OP wants to define “consciousness” as some feeling it sounds like he’s basically done. He’s labeled one of his feelings with the word “consciousness”. I’m not sure what point of contention remains.
Where is consciousness in one of my sense-impressions? Tell me a procedure that will allow me to locate the thing you want to call “consciousness” in one of my sense-impressions.
Maybe OP wants to ask, “What are sense impressions made of?”. But that’s incoherent in this language game because sense impressions are themselves not objects in sense impressions.
Professor sent out the grad students. Some of them didn’t come back (died?).
Those are all the facts. Any pontificating about whether it is Good or Bad is just nonsense.
So hoarding is owning plus the opinion of a Good Person such as Doxina that the owning is BAD because of its size. What if another Good Person thinks the owning is not excessive, then is it both hoarding and not hoarding? Maybe Schrodinger knows.
> Generally using life-or-death situations to run a huge profit is at best considered impolite. Zosima is not alone in thinking so.
“Do what Zosima and Doxin and the other Good People say with your stuff, otherwise you’re BAD!”
Such as?
> So "want" in this context would be about conflicting goals.
Do tell, how can I observe a goal with my senses?
What is the word “wanting” naming? Can you tell me how to observe this phenomena with one of my senses?
If not, then in what way is that sentence meaningful?
Is “hoarding” just a synonym for “owning”?
> Second, they may have goods that can mean the difference between life and death. And they choose to use that situation for turning a huge profit. There isn't really anything commendable in that.
Sounds like, “Do what zosima says with your stuff, otherwise you’re BAD!”
Of course this account won’t participate coherently in this conversation.
Is it? Or are you just a bird trying to explain how flying works by dropping poop on my head?
> If the plan is to utter a sentence, the way you generate the sentence is NOT to emit the most likely token to fit all of the speech input you ever heard before.
This is completely incoherent to me.
Irrefutable psuedo-facts.
> To be sentient is to be aware of yourself in the world; LaMDA simply isn’t.
Attempts to clarify the usage of “sentient” by invoking “awareness” and “the world”. Lol, right, now I get it.
> What these systems do, no more and no less, is to put together sequences of words, but without any coherent understanding of the world behind them, like foreign language Scrabble players who use English words as point-scoring tools, without any clue about what that mean.
Just swinging around this midwit assumption that “words have meaning”.
> We in the AI community have our differences, but pretty much all of find the notion that LaMDA might be sentient completely ridiculous.
“Don’t be like the weird low status guy who wants to fuck the algorithm.”
I believe nearly all propositions about people thinking are unintelligible.
I also believe propositions about going beyond the physical world are unintelligible.
If you’re taking about parts of software, I fail to see how you are not talking about algorithms. The use of the word “simulation” seems completely irrelevant to me.
> So, no, "know" and "think" are not labels for an algorithm, but labels for things that can happen inside brains,
Or are using the word “think” to identify some phenomena I can observe with a brain and a microscope?
And if there is no way for me to determine such, in what way is the phrase “average citizen” meaningful?
How are the words “person”, “know” and “think” being used here? Are they labels for algorithms?