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bulletwolf··on Early-Retirement Update
Yes, I'd also like to work in a collaborative setting about 15 hours a week, contributing to a project or research. One thing holding me back, though, is I just can't stomach the idea of some capitalist stealing the fruits of my labor for themselves! I know, extremely hypocritical, as I've benefitted tremendously from capitalism, and continue to do so. That said, I'd be happy to give up my wealth, as long as all rich people had to, and we magically found some stable equilibrium where it stayed that way and society could still function.

I did get into open source work, for a while, contributing to improving the software I used the most. Unfortunately, that mainly resulted in work on Chrome and vscode, and other pieces of software owned by giant, richer-then-god corporations, so the same frustrations applied :p

bulletwolf··on Early-Retirement Update
It was mostly an ad hoc CBT approach. I spent more time introspecting my motivations, and if I decided I was doing something mainly for ego gratification, I'd stop. At first, that left very little. As I said earlier, programming was out, also most gaming and working out, watching sports, pretty much anything that generated dopamine. I spent a huge amount of time listening to comedy podcasts, and the rest reading. Eventually, though, a big positive was opening up more mental space for my partner, whom I'm sad to say I neglected pretty badly during my working days. After that, I spent more time with a local community group, and, yes, puttering around the house making home improvements.

I actually did try joining a meditation group, but I had a very bad time. I have a loud and constant inner monologue, but when I calmed my thoughts, all I experienced was primal negative emotion. Some mixture of shame and terror. I don't mean this literally, but it felt like a demon was trying to posses my mind. The instructor was a very nice person, but not a professional, so maybe I could have had a better time with a better guide.

Finally, I've stopped trying so hard to suppress my ego. I'm very curious what living in a society that supports low ego would be like, but the one I live in doesn't. Ego has many used (especially in a corporate setting, it's a tremendous asset), and the experiences of ego and dopamine are part of the richness of life, even if, when viewed at a society level, they often seem so dysfunctional and defector-ish.

bulletwolf··on Early-Retirement Update
I've got 5 years of early retirement under my belt, and I feel like I've had the inverse experience of the OP. The first two years were an incredibly difficult transition period for me.

Losing the status of being a higher up at a successful (small) company was extremely painful, especially because I didn't realize how much of a perk of the job it was. Like many others in this thread, I realized work provided a venue to solve interesting problems with interesting people, and I knew I would miss that (but also knew there were other, non-work ways to scratch that itch). Looking back, though, the ego/status aspect was probably the biggest benefit, and I never admitted that to myself.

Fairly soon into retirement, I made the choice to address the issue by decreasing my ego needs, rather than pursuing another high status non-work position. In some sense, it wasn't too hard to do (though I did find that I had to give up programming for a while, since it turned out that, despite my love of math and puzzle solving, the real biggest draw of programming was the megalomaniacal sense of being a god in a universe of your own creation). The issue is, I went too far, and experienced pretty significant depersonalization, which, from the inside wasn't terrible, but I think made me too weird to interact with my family and friends.

I've currently accepted more ego back into my life (hence this self-centered posting, for instance), but kept it below the old levels. I'm happy with my life, and find it much more even keeled and comfortable than when I was working, though I still miss the emotional highs of succeeding in a big work project.

Anyway, I think what really got me to log on here and post this was seeing the various other posters claiming work as a source of meaning and maybe poo pooing the OP, a bit, for giving it up. Now, on the one hand, I'm not really disagreeing, but I just wanted to add the nuance that, for me, turns out most of that meaning was not coming from nice pro-social things like cooperating with a team and working on interesting problems, but mostly just base status drive and ego. Now, I don't know how much my experience applies to the general population and most jobs, but I have a feeling it probably does apply to a fair chunk of the readers of this forum.

bulletwolf··on Ask HN: What's your working day like?
Unemployed post-exit startup founder

-[4:30] Guess I'm awake now.

-[4:45] Hungry. Eat.

-[5:00] Read another article about automation and the collapse of the middle class on HN. Wait for the sun to come up.

-[6:00] Two-hour walk. Receive endorphin-fueled inspiration. Forget everything the moment I re-enter the house.

-[8:00] Watch Magic the Gathering streams. It's a nice game.

-[10:00] Hungry. Eat.

-[11:00] Read another global warming article on HN. Contemplate the future.

-[12:00] Watch an endless stream of whatever the YouTube algorithm feeds me. Kids these days are so talented.

-[18:00] Hungry. Walk to store. Eat.

-[19:00] Friend calls. Flip coin. Tails. Don't pick up.

-[20:30] Feeling sleepy. Floss and go to bed.