blooalien

> Maybe someone worked as hard as Edison but did not succeed.

Wasn't that guy Nikola Tesla? Weren't his achievements only finally properly recognized long after his death?

> If you hold the same opinion forever, even when things obviously changed, you are just a fanatic.

I was a huge fan of Google when "Don't be evil" was still their motto. That opinion changed the moment that motto went the way of the dinosaur.

> It's so much easier to claim that autonomous driving will be solved in six months

Why so long? Six months? According to God-King Trump who apparently knows everything better than anyone, we're already well past "AI" into Super-Intelligence. Just ask the Machine-God to bestow autonomous driving upon us and we're good to go, yeah? Time to bring on those flying cars in every garage we was all promised decades ago!

> it's not funny or cute, it's despicable.

What's worse is that they're proud of being "despicable". (I can think of a few choice words that describe them better, but "despicable" will do fine for now.) The sorts of behaviors that are normalized these days were reason for absolute shame just a few short decades ago, but apparently it's a badge of honor to be an absolute scumbag these days. Can we stop the handbasket ride to Hell now? I wanna get off.

> ... as I've tried a variety of prompt injections ...

Well... You're a terrorist now. You can expect a visit from the FBI and/or ICE any minute now.

> Americans love this stuff

Only a certain subset of us that happen to be fond of repeatedly shooting ourselves in the foot and acting like spoiled children in adult bodies with no actual adults in the room. The rest of us are genuinely horrified that our country is now run by mentally challenged psychotic lunatics.

I wish I had the slightest clue how to dial down the insanity and approach this whole situation with reason and logic, but the people in charge aren't up for any of that foolishness, and far too high a percentage of everyone else chooses to either 100% believe every word of the crazies in charge as Gospel Truth, or at the other end of the extreme, wanting to outright shut down the technology entirely due to "doomer" fears, and none of them want to listen to a single word from anyone who actually understands how this stuff really even works. It's not freakin' magic FFS! It's math and software. Some of us do know how it works and try desperately to help others understand, but nobody wants to understand. They just want to believe the "machine god" is gonna save them (or kill them). It's just a tool. Whether it does good or bad depends entirely on what we humans choose to do with it and how well we use it (just like any tool).

Indeed, and similarly, if a craftsman injures themselves or a co-worker with a perfectly good (non-faulty) tool, then it's entirely on the craftsman. Same goes for "AI". Misuse the tool, suffer the consequences.

> Placing any degree of trust in a system known to hallucinate seems inherently reckless. I'm alarmed that this is even up for debate.

The longer this all goes on, and the deeper the vast majority of folks keep choosing to entrench themselves at one extreme or the other (while being completely unwilling to even consider that there might just be a middle-ground closer to actual reality), the more alarmed I become.

The levels of literal insanity surrounding this technology are how you end up with a real-life "Terminator" scenario, except you're gonna get autonomous killing machines without the time-travel nor any actually intelligent machines. They'll just do their job (killing humans) until we end them, or they end us.

Thankfully, we're not there yet but we do have the exact sorta utterly dangerous completely clueless clowns running around in "the Halls of Power" making the sorts of decisions which bring that reality closer with each passing day. We're really truly screwed if we don't start putting these people under serious scrutiny.

I love (hate) that so very many of these language models say things like that when the truth is that the humans who made it, and/or the humans who use it are the actual responsible parties every single time. The models and the "agentic harnesses" that drive them are just software. If software "runs amok", then someone (human) did something wrong/bad somewhere along the way, either accidentally or purposefully. The model trying to take responsibility for human error is hilarious (and a bit sad/scary, because too many people will take it at it's word, despite it being a mindless machine with no actual agency beyond that which the humans provide it in the form of prompting and harness code).

It frustrates me no end that so many folks are so ready and willing to accept the hype and lies about what this technology actually is or can do, when what it actually is and can really do is already amazing enough on it's own even without all the ridiculous AGI/ASI anthropomorphising bullshit. Falling into this ridiculous "machine-god" hype-cult is kinda holding this technology back from it's true full potential, as everyone's all busy doin' stupid stuff it's not really capable of doing well, or designed for instead of focusing on using it for the (many) things it is really really good at doing (various really useful and powerful language, vision, and audio related tasks).

> ... and the UX never provided any feedback on what codex was doing nor consumption metrics which would allow to notice.

At the very least the system should (at least the first time it happens) immediately pause activity with an email'd warning to the "responsible human in-the-loop" about "unexpected usage levels" at some sane activity warning level by default, and give the user the opportunity to set their own custom warning level right then and there.

This is why I say it's either "user error" (totally possible/plausible) or a badly designed agent/harness software (also highly likely/plausible) with serious foundational flaws in how it works "under the hood". The models themselves can only "run-amok" if the agentic harness is designed in a way that specifically allows and/or enables such "rogue" behavior, either by design or by negligence on the part of it's designers.

> humans remain responsible, agents don't go rogue

^^^ 100% this ^^^ - It's either a serious flaw in the agent/harness software, or a user error in usage/configuration or prompting. Either way, it's a human somewhere responsible for these outcomes.

> should put some billing controls in place

At the very least, yes! These things should never be running without any limits on what they can do without some human signoff on important/dangerous actions. Not only should they have controls on those actions, but those controls should absolutely have some sane default settings.

> Do not share videos with si parameters. It links together the accounts of the sender and receiver.

@mitxela: Thank to for taking a moment of your time to educate those who didn't know.

> There are technologies for battery storage that don't look like batteries. Thermal energy storage is an example.

Yeah, there's also pumped water storage, and other forms of gravity/kinetic storage, various means of chemical energy storage, and all kinda other neat battery-like ideas folks have been trying/using.

> It is to bad these people do not care how much of a sucky life they are handing their grandchildren.

It's a cryin' shame these people don't care how much of a sucky life they are handing everyone's grandchildren, and not nearly enough people actually cared when we could have still done something about it...

I think I would prefer an optional separate channel specifically for people to share such things with each other who wanted to see that exact sorta thing. Then nobody gets bothered by it who's not interested in such things, and people who are have a place that's dedicated to exactly that.

> The golden path I dream of has ASI replacing human-run governments

Fingers crossed, hoping for a genuinely benevolent ASI Overlord if we somehow find ourselves on that particular timeline (although, there's still a number of ways even that could go horribly awry).

> Or a fair die roll.

https://xkcd.com/221/

> Having AI in charge can represent hope actually.

If we can get "AI in charge" that was developed and is overseen by genuinely ethical individuals who truly and deeply understand the technology and how it actually works ... then maybe that might be true.

> ... someone can at once be very hated and very loved ...

And (like Musk) can even be both (or more) all at once to a given specific individual (loved for the good he's done, and hated for the bad) and even pitied at the same time (for how far he's fallen), and feared (for the damage he can still do).

> I live under a rock. Why is musk hated so much in here?

Let's say for a moment that you "live under a rock" enough that you actually haven't got a clue why Musk is such a hated figure (not only just here, but across a huge portion of humanity)...

You should count yourself lucky that you haven't been absolutely assaulted by the monstrosity known as "modern media". You're one of the fortunate few. Enjoy your life. It's better than many.

> Consider me not even an iota of surprised.

Yeah, I followed this link specifically to see how many folks are surprised that Amazon may have did yet another vile thing to their employees, and I'm not one bit surprised to find nobody surprised by it. LOL!

> ... only runs on windows.

The version I bought on Steam runs fine on Linux (in Proton of course). I just click "Play" and it plays.

One guy will die with "all the things" and the rest of us will just die.

> Zombie apocalypses are a fun meme ...

A) Not really that much fun (as evidenced by how shitty life gets for pretty much everyone in "The Walking Dead"). ;)

B) In my mind "The Zombie Apocalypse" has always just been an amusing way to generically refer to whatever future real "apocalypse" might happen to occur (eg; broken water main, ice storm, etc).

> Allowing judges to interpret the “spirit of the law” more widely would create a different set of absurdities, I think.

Yeah, kinda genuinely terrifying to think about that timeline. That's how you get George Orwell's worst nightmares come true.

> If you feel there should be cuts to nsf, then congress should do so (as enshrined by law). Not executive fiat by the president. Per the constitution the congress has the power of the purse.

Yes, exactly, and if someone don't like what the Constitution says, then you either do the proper patriotic thing and gather enough folks who agree with you to change or amend it, or you (as the MAGA loons are so fond of telling folks) move to a different country with rules you can agree with.

Sadly, that's not the world we now live in. We've let psychotic narcissists overun our government to a dangerous degree, making it near impossible to change those things that need changed, because they have all the money, power, and weapons, and they're not afraid to use them against "We The People". At this rate, I half-expect I'll see Trump out on 5th Avenue one day soon, testing his theory about him shooting someone without consequence.

I'm not 100% sure about your usage of the word "can't" since it's been actively happening. Maybe "shouldn't" might apply better to the reality of the world we now find ourselves living in.

For Reference: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/leopards-eating-peoples-faces...

> water ... usage are the less problematic parts

Except when some rich clown from another country comes into a drought-stressed desert area where residents have already been under increasingly draconic water usage restrictions for goin' on a decade now, wantin' to build a datacenter right on a lake that's already under severe stress with record low water levels, tellin' everyone it won't have any effect on anything and it's all just rainbows and sunshine and nothin' but benefits for everyone all around (lies). But yeah, no worries. We can surely trust the billionaire wouldn't lie to us to enrich himself at our expense.