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>What is high risk and what is low risk?

At high risk are the elderly (65+ years old), the obese, and people of any age that are diabetic and/or have preexisting cardiovascular issues (which accounts for the majority of covid deaths). I also include people that have excessive and unavoidable human contact with 100± people as part of their daily lives/work (nurses, teachers, customer-facing service workers, etc).

At low risk are all healthy people under 40, especially healthy children. They have the capacity to fight these viruses and develop antibodies the old fashioned way without intervention.

The low risk don't necessarily have to avoid the vaccines completely but would be better served with an additional 2-5± years of vaccine testing before taking the plunge. In the meantime, the low risk should prioritize exercise, eating well, avoiding immunosuppressive drugs (hard street drugs, antibiotics, etc) and buying as much time as possible by avoiding high risk behaviors.

I believe this approach drastically reduces iatrogenesis (disease brought on by the healer), which is a leading cause of death in most developed countries.

Medical science has feedback latency. Be careful about trusting brand new scientific claims that haven't gone through rigorous testing.

Newly developed vaccines for debilitating diseases aren't given to children indiscriminately en masse. We are dealing with a completely different scale here and we should be more careful about it.

Rushing the medical feedback process has huge potential downsides.

>Actually, vaccinating all kids is normal

Vaccinating children with 20-100 year old (~1-4 generations of human feedback/testing) vaccines is normal, vaccinating them with 1 year old experimental vaccines is not.

In my opinion, people in high risk groups (elderly/preexisting conditions) should take the vaccine, but low risk healthy individuals should wait as long as possible for more feedback about the potential downsides.

Older at risk age groups have lived a full life and will mostly die in 20 years, so side effects are less of an issue but having otherwise healthy kids potentially live 70-80 years with permanent side effects is criminal.

Waiting N years is the correct approach like somebody else stated. Don't rush to be a guinea pig if you are not high risk.

Interesting that this is downvoted without a reply. I guess people have conclusive evidence that a foreign country didn't just attack China? Feel free to share/link it if you do.

HN feels like the same kind of echo chamber that would have attacked me for saying not to invade Iraq in the early 2000s... Anything our historically dishonest intelligence agencies imply about foreign countries is eaten up like gospel truth without any skepticism.

"It’s not the best system for everyone" but it's the best system for people that accumulated vast sums of wealth pre-capitalism and what they say usually goes.

Gold was volatile when it was initially introduced as a store of value too. Look up the historical charts when compared to silver (the primary store of value at that point in history)

I expect the fact that this virus emerged in Wuhan during the World Military Games makes the Chinese very cautious about allowing in 'investigators' from countries that potentially deployed this biological weapon.

It is quite interesting to watch people rationalize what they experienced under Trump, even as a person that was not a fan of the sensationalist coverage he received in the MSM... IMO he was an objectively bad leader and his short-termist approach has upcoming 2nd and 3rd order effects that most people are not prepared for.

The global immune system is in the process of responding to the re-emergence and attempted normalization of western (white) chauvinism that he played a role in reviving.

Downvoters angry that ~90%+ of the planet doesn't believe white America's manufactured origin myth or is it something else?

>This was never a problem pre-pandemic

I think this was less of a problem pre-Trump more specifically.

At some point the idea that foreigners and minorities should be treated like human beings seemed to become controversial in some circles. Same circles that thought an alternate invented history was preferable to reality and spent a lot of time/money mainstreaming that idea.

The resulting push back was expected and necessary. There is a cycle of civil rights wins followed by backlash in the US, I don't think that cycle ever ends.

UK and US both have private central banks. This is true for all G8 countries if I remember correctly.

Most income taxes collected in the US/UK go directly to these private organizations.

In many ways slavery in the US was 'abolished' in 1865 then a revised version (aka perpetual debt slavery) was adopted in 1913 at the tail end of the US-China opium trade induced economic boom and expanded by both parties in the decades that followed.

US dollar is guaranteed to lose at least 50% (lowball) of its value over the next the 10 years, most with this knowledge are choosing to protect wealth by investing in scarce assets.

Bitcoin is an easy choice for wealth preservation as the most scarce/liquid/desirable asset available to most humans.

A private organization (central bank) having a monopoly on printing and lending money to your government is acting "legitimately"?

Many that have studied this system would disagree.

People are looking forward to an economy that revolves around a deflationary/limited-supply currency like Bitcoin so, for example, excess housing supply doesn't get wasted for the sake of speculation/inflation-hedging. People looking to protect wealth would liquidate as many assets as possible for Bitcoin to achieve the maximum passive return and not hold underutilized assets on their balance sheet.

Have 3 houses and only live in 1? The fact that your houses are losing value in Bitcoin terms will push you to sell if wealth preservation is the goal.

Anything but believing black people...

I remember when this same approach was employed until police bodycam footage taught us some cops do just go into a black neighborhoods and plant drugs on poor black people that are innocent, etc...

I guess some people find it unbelievable that one of the most racist countries in human history is the same country they live in, must be nice. Whitewashing history helps in this process.

This could start further upstream. Is it possible US immigration inadvertently selects for unassertive East Asians?

East Asians were banned from the country for a long time, I would not be surprised if there was a specific selection criteria put in place when that ban was lifted.

One would expect the more assertive to openly/unapologetically defend their history and decisions of leaders like Mao. Thanks to tremendous western propaganda that's probably a red flag (no pun intended) for most immigration agents.

>True inflation the value of the dollar vs other currencies would drop, and it hasn't.

The dollar index has dropped about 10% since 2020.

...and American kids aren't taught that the US was selling oil and equipment to the Japanese so they could attack China...the cabinet cutting off these supplies while the US President was away at a secret meeting with Churchill in Alaska triggered the attack on Pearl Harbor.

Both Churchill and Roosevelt had planned to continue supplying Japan so they could destroy China, the supplies were cutoff without their knowledge.

Once promised US oil was cutoff and the secret treaty signed in 1905 by Teddy and Japan was reneged on, the Japanese needed to invade the rest of Asia (starting with Indonesia) to keep their war machine fueled, bombing Pearl Harbor ensured they could do this with less US resistance in the Pacific.

Jacobin's criticisms reek of ignorance, slaves were clearly the engine of the country if you understand how they were also financialized.

US slaves were securitized and used as collateral for loans/leverage/etc (slaves were the first assets to be securitized in America). People around Europe, in countries where slavery was illegal/unpopular, and the rest of the US could invest and profit from the trade without getting blood on their hands directly.

Each slave was approximately the value of a single family home (~1kg of gold) which means the British/Americans were able to "create" the value of 10,000,000 or so single family homes worth of wealth (~$1,171,852,800,000) out of thin air using African men, women, and children's backs before cotton production (which was more valuable than all other exports combined), other labor, and other investment activity is even accounted for. (Note: I'm not even counting the slaves that were domestically produced in this calculation, this is just the number brought across the Atlantic.)

Cotton misdirection is what Jacobin is attempting, they (or their quoted 'experts') lack awareness of the financial ecosystem that operated with slavery at its foundation. The volume of money/gold involved built the first stages of a large % of early US/UK/etc cities and accounted for a much larger % of GDP and US/UK wealth than Jacobin is attempting to claim.

That fact that I need to explain this very recent history to educated US adults is yet another signal that this history is inadequately covered and should be compulsory. There is nothing more American than understanding the foundations of American Capitalism, and its evolution from the slave economy.

Final note: Speaking of India, destroying Indian and Chinese cotton production allowed the US/UK to dominate 2/3rds+ of the global cotton trade, not technical know-how or advanced intelligence... it was mostly torture,murder, and destruction (historical record has many accounts of invaders breaking/cutting off hands of poor Indian/Chinese textile laborers en masse, at the time these workers produced the finest muslin and other textiles in human history).

Ghandi's promotion of textile (yarn/khaadi) production during his protests/boycotts wasn't a fluke/random...

>We are not saying to "postpone" history lessons, but to contextualize them with other historical facts that are more important.

Please give me some examples of these "facts that are more important" where racism and WS are concerned.

>I don't want my kids to be taught that there's this amorphous but pervasive "systemic racism" and "white supremacy" out to get people who look like them, but which they can't do anything about.

That final qualifier is the red flag to me, nobody teaches that "they can't do anything about it" (stating that seems purposely dishonest), the goal of these teachings is in large part about changing/fixing systems through awareness.

Side note: This history is also for white children who in many cases are negatively affected by these systems in non-obvious ways and are an important population to inform as they are potential future participants in the correction.

My intuition tells me when important and uncomfortable historical facts come up and certain people bend over backwards to make you look away, the goal is to distract, hide, and obfuscate.

>if I wanted to suck up to elite whites I’d embrace teaching kids of color about “white supremacy.”

I completely disagree. White supremacist systems have operated across the globe for a few centuries now, the actual white elites/beneficiaries (not just the group I suspect you dislike), the British Royal family for example, hate the idea of history like the 1619 project being spread to the masses because the affected may find the common thread that weaves through their histories. WS thrives on ignorance and inaction.

When 90% of the planet has a common understanding of white supremacist systems and the vulnerabilities, the fragility of these systems is exposed and the foundation starts to crumble with minor shifts in behavior (especially economic) at the individual level on a mass scale.

TLDR Anyone arguing for less exposure of WS history and the history of racism in general is very suspect.

Coinjoins and whirpooling bitcoin is becoming cheaper, easier, and more widely adopted...chain hopping is also becoming easier thanks to decentralized exchanges and atomic swaps. If the government wants to censor transactions they have to expend many times more energy than any person with a free wallet and 5-10 minutes. Enforcement becomes cost prohibitive as the network grows and more people use these tools.

Do Jewish parents "save their children" from history lessons and postpone them?

When is the holocaust and other info about historic anti-semitism introduced?

I would be surprised to hear that they delay this, I believe some of these historical stories/events are part of their religious studies as children.

Giving the oppressive system a pass for X number of years and letting children walk through society ignorant of the threats they face is an even bigger disservice that any demoralization that may or may not occur in my opinion.

Black children literally get murdered by the state for benign activity, I think by 13 (the age Tamir Rice was murdered) they are old enough to start learning why.

>I don't want my kids to be taught that there's this amorphous but pervasive "systemic racism" and "white supremacy" out to get people who look like them, but which they can't do anything about.

Learning this history is the first step of "doing something about it".

Brown/black people should know their history too, we can't just paper over the historic criminality of certain groups of people because it feels uncomfortable or somehow may make people unpatriotic. Everyone has a right to their history and black/brown people have been denied it in certain parts of the world, thanks in many cases to censorship and/or propaganda sucking the air out of the room.

I do find it interesting when new immigrants come to the US and "model-minority-explain" to the people (African Americans and others) that built this country for free and are actually the only reason non-white immigrants are even allowed into the country, that they should just move on or not pursue a better understanding of the history it was illegal for them to learn.

Sucking up to the majority for better standing at the expense of the purposely created minority underclass is a huge disservice to the people of this country/planet.

>Sure. Neither is any country providing a $750/month UBI, much less $1500/month, from taxes. (Some countries do provide that sort of thing for citizens from oil revenues or whatnot.)

Kuwait pays ~$10k per citizen, last I checked. A few countries pay citizens for having children too.

This is quite a succinct explanation floatingatoll, thanks for expanding.

Doge has 129 billion coins in circulation with an expectation of having over 1.2 trillion coins in circulation (there is no max supply), it is 'funny' because it is an example of extremely bad money when we compare it to actual hard money like bitcoin (18M circ, 21M cap).

China has less carbon pollution per capita than the US. Not sure why we would measure pollution any other way...

Does each US/EU/German/Japanese person have more right to pollute than a Chinese person? I think not.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/341152486/figure/fi...

I notice a common trend of nocoiners is minimizing the utility of the bitcoin network to make their job of criticizing it easier. It is intellectually dishonest and lazy and makes it impossible for people that have actually studied the tech to take you seriously.