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>This was never a problem pre-pandemic

I think this was less of a problem pre-Trump more specifically.

At some point the idea that foreigners and minorities should be treated like human beings seemed to become controversial in some circles. Same circles that thought an alternate invented history was preferable to reality and spent a lot of time/money mainstreaming that idea.

The resulting push back was expected and necessary. There is a cycle of civil rights wins followed by backlash in the US, I don't think that cycle ever ends.

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Republicans started lying in the 90s to stay in power. Trump was a consequence of that. But yeah, pre-Trump they did "only" bend the rules to stay in power, with Trump that changed to openly trying to overthrow democracy. That you can only do by constantly lying.

Kinda sucks if you only have to parties, and one becomes a fascist cult. Makes discussing politics impossible, probably. There's just a difference between untruths, over-reactions, "cancel culture" and all those things on the one side vs. plain fascism on the other side.

First of all every political party lies to stay in power. The idea that this is unique to the Republican party is ridiculous. The Democratic consistently lie and bend the rules as well.

If you think Republicans are supporting fascism then you either don't know what fascism is or what Republicans support.

Its not me that thinks that. Its, you know, historians and stuff. But what do they know.

There's a difference between some people lying or saying not entirely true things sometimes, and a whole system of belief based on lies. If you believe Republicans and Democrats are on the same level there, there's no point that we continue. I will not convince you of anything and vice versa.

It is quite interesting to watch people rationalize what they experienced under Trump, even as a person that was not a fan of the sensationalist coverage he received in the MSM... IMO he was an objectively bad leader and his short-termist approach has upcoming 2nd and 3rd order effects that most people are not prepared for.

The global immune system is in the process of responding to the re-emergence and attempted normalization of western (white) chauvinism that he played a role in reviving.

Downvoters angry that ~90%+ of the planet doesn't believe white America's manufactured origin myth or is it something else?

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