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Chinese models had 94% reduction in parameters (from 2.8T/104B to 180B/6B) in 6 weeks, while staying close to the same quality.
July 16th: The "Kimi K3 moment" - China has caught up to Opus!
4 weeks later: GLM 5.3 - Same performance, but cut the amount of parameters and cost to a third!
12 days later: GLM 5.3 Flash - Almost GLM5.3 performance but cut the parameters in half, cut prices to a fifth and serving on Chinese chips!
Same score as the latest DeepSeek Flash 0731 which has 284B parameters! (13B active)
Its also the second best Qwen model, much better than Qwen 3.7 Max, but significantly below Qwen 3.8 Max.
Just 4 weeks ago the "Kimi K3 moment" was seen as a threat to Closed AI and in less than a month Z.ai have cut the parameter/RAM barrier to a third.
Congratulation to Z.ai and all the hard working Chinese researchers who are quitely boiling the frog.
JieTang (Founder of Z.ai): It won't take that long
"Qwen3.8 is launching and going open-weight soon! With a massive 2.4T parameters..."
What's the catch?
[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47246746 [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47249343