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I think the author started writing this on a whim and couldnt bring it to a proper conclusion. What i cant understand is how it managed to get such a high points on hn. Because the piece is completely stale—neither praise nor criticism. The author’s own thoughts are so generic that we hear them every single day in our daily lives, and especially on Hacker News, in the back-and-forth between the “Coddites” and the “Vibers” crowd.
My indirect take is that, since AI coding is already shrouded in uncertainty, there’s no need for it to remain in this kind of fog—this article will lose all relevance within five years and end up proving the author wrong.
I created my account two years ago, but I have barely used it. I am gonna deleting it so that i do not take up space unnecessarily. Still, one thing should not be forgotten, those who fail to adapt eventually fall behind.
Another issue is what stance they would have taken if the vote had yielded the exact opposite result. I sense a whiff of a long-term self-serving approach in Codeberg’s stance. Who can guarantee that a platform with open-source, human-written code won’t eventually make that code available for use in models?
Apart from these, for example, the author implemented the model the traditional way using C, but it is more convenient to use tf-lite micro on esp32s with the Berry script language.
However, since I have never used onnxin this kind of project, I cant speak to its advantages, so comparisons are difficult from my perspective. But as I said, tf-lite and offer benefits like easy integration, good optimization, and as the name implies, tensorFlow.
Original text before translation: "Bu tarz yazılar, makaleler ve deyişler bana Luddite hareketini hatırlatıyor. Maalesef olacak olanı engellemek bizim elimizde olan bir şey değil. Yel değirmenlerine karşı savaşarak ancak elde tutulan mızrak bükülür. Zamanın ruhu ileride veya en kısa zamanda bunun gerçekleşeceğini gösteriyor. Developer'lar zeki, çalışkan ve işinde iyi insanlar olsa bile aşırı verimli ve bir o kadar bilgi kaynağına erişimi olan bu hesaplama canavarlarına karşı her zaman bir yönden eksik ve aciz olacaklardır. Bu yüzden bu tarz görüşler yerine daha önemli olan şu kavrama yönelmek gerekir. Peki bundan sonra ne olacak?"
My translation to English without any help from translation tools(google translate, deepl or any LLMs): "This kind of writings, articles and sayings reminds me Luddite movement. Unfortunately we are not able to stop what is going to happen. Fighting against windmills only bends our spear. Spirit of the time says, it will happen in the future. Developers can smart, hardworking and good at their job but they can't compete against these powerful and can able to access all data sources, machines. Because of that instead of thesekind of thoughts and views, we should focuse to the this idea. What is going to happen next?"
as you can see, my main translation is not as good as LLMs because these tools are great for machine translation tasks. this is reason which you dont able to understand why i used for translation. so what was the reason you think the main text is ai?!
"Developer'lar zeki, çalışkan ve işinde iyi insanlar olsa bile aşırı verimli ve bir o kadar bilgi kaynağına erişimi olan bu hesaplama canavarlarına karşı her zaman bir yönden eksik ve aciz olacaklardır." in here i didnt use "da" addition after " ve bir o kadar ". normally in turkish you need to add this addition because nature of this language needs and it gives a meaning of "able" word in English and also it is not necessary to add "da" addition because it doesn't have to be, because that's what it means when it isn't. "eksik ve aciz" is a false usage if you know this language. There is an expression disorder here, but I used it like that to fit the natural flow and narrative style of the sentence. at the first paragraph there is word "deyiş", it is rarely used word. "Deyiş" is like a kind of public speech. It is an address to the people, but on a smaller scale and at the same time contains the meaning that one can speculatively express one's own opinion. What is it that makes you underestimate my intellectual knowledge and general knowledge so much?
edit: i have added an explanation of the shortcomings of the original text
The question "What will happen next?" implies that something may have already happened now, but in the next step, different things will unfold. Preventing certain outcomes is difficult because knowledge does not belong to a single entity. Even if one manages to block something on a local scale, events will continue to unfold at a broader level.
Some ideas, once they start being built upon by certain individuals or institutions of that era, continue to develop in that direction if they achieve success. That’s why I say, "Zeitgeist predicts it this way." Researchers who have laid down important cornerstones in this field (e.g., Ilya Sutskever, Dario Amodei, etc.)[1, 2] suggest that this is bound to happen eventually, one way or another.
Beyond that, most of the hardware developments, software optimizations, and academic papers being published right now are all focused on this field. Even when considering the enormous hype surrounding it, the development of this area will clearly continue unless there is a major bottleneck or the emergence of a bubble.
Many people still approach such discussions sarcastically, labeling them as marketing or advertising gimmicks. However, as things stand, this seems to be the direction we are headed.
[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugvHCXCOmm4 [2] https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1i2nugu/ilya_s...