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I took it as it was meant. My colleague doubted the basic assertion, so I was providing an example of each - it wasn't intended to be comprehensive :)

Just had to spell this out to a colleague, so thought I may as well post it. It should be "didn't say", rather than "never said", but the gist is the same ;)

I didn't say she stole my money - someone else said it

I didn't say she stole my money - I didn't say it

I didn't say she stole my money - I only implied it

I didn't say she stole my money - I said someone did, not necessarily her

I didn't say she stole my money - I considered it borrowed, even though she didn't ask

I didn't say she stole my money - only that she stole money

I didn't say she stole my money - she stole stuff which cost me money to replace

Ditto. I used to be a member of a guitar forum where religion was banned from discussion. All well and good, but I left in the end because whilst it wasn't discussed, I couldn't stand to read endless lyrics about the wonder of god, and every other piece of advice being to "join in with your local church band". You can, apparently, smother a whole lot of guitar discussion with just a smattering of religion, and all without any actual discussion. In the end, I wasn't comfortable there due to something that was nothing at all to do with guitars.

I can ignore religion when I want to, and I can destroy an illogical belief system with the best of 'em, but, I'm much more likely to just find somewhere with less barriers to the subject at hand. It was unprofessional of them to disallow discussion of religion with wishy-washy rules, and it's unprofessional to plaster coding in porn, soft or otherwise.

My engineering side agrees with yours, but programming side has been tainted by it too. My programming side just thinks "think of all the cool stuff I could learn and use in the time it would take to wrap my head around something I can see no use for".

Same as I could learn enough of a foreign language to get by with in a fraction of the time it would take me to learn Klingon, which has no purpose other than novelty.

Can one of you Klingon-speakers please tell me why I should care about the Y-combinator and how mind-numbingly cool it is?

"I don't think it's obvious that a hack went undetected by Time and gave the vote to Moot. What seems more likely to me is that more people voted for him."

That argument doesn't account for the rest of the hack. We have already had detailed explanations of what they did to 'extinguish' the hack from the hackers, and also how they got around the trivial upgrades to security. That acknowledgement from Time is denial, plain and simple.

Good points, both.

As an aside: I get the feeling this is about you personally feeling you are capable of something more than you are currently doing with your career, is that the case?

I have a high IQ, and I've worked quite a few jobs that others would consider beneath me. I enjoyed them as much as I enjoyed 'better' jobs and as far as I'm concerned, as long as I'm enjoying what I'm doing I'm not wasting a thing.

Another example: I've had an awesome idea for a start-up kicking around in my head for the best part of 10 years now... People think it's a good idea (I only ask those who are brutally honest about other things); there's a definite untapped market for it; I'd enjoy it; and I've got everything I need to be able to get it going by myself, without any significant cost. I'm convinced it would be a respectable success - so why am I still doing my day job? I'm too busy making music with two bands (at a cost, too), which I enjoy more. How's that a waste?

As for peer pressure - I care very little what other people think about my life, and besides which, I tend to hang around with people who feel the same way (regardless of their IQ, FWIW), so there's not that much peer pressure for me to disregard in the first place.

If my car can only reach 50mph, I can't drive at 100mph. If my car can reach 150mph, I can cruise at 100mph if I wish to do so.

What is it that a high IQ prevents me from doing that a lower IQ would allow?

It's perfectly valid to question whether or not a conflicted judge pulled any strings to hear the case - that sort of thing goes on, and he has shown lack of judgement at best and outright corruption at worst. Everything about his position in this case needs to be thoroughly investigated, but that's one of the most important things IMHO. If he made any effort to hear this case himself, that makes lack of judgement less likely and planned corruption more likely.

That's just disgusting. What's the penalty for a judge having an undeclared interest in Sweden, anyone?

"This article makes me feel tired."

I know something you could take for that...

No, that's productive programmers. Productivity != competence, and I've seen plenty of examples of this first hand.

Besides which, that approach is not suited to all aspects of programming. If you think in terms of a utility programmer - someone who just tweaks here and there when others aren't capable - it swings the other way. Being able to get the client to show you how they do things and attacking the problem that way can save an eternity of poking around trying to trace a problem.

Your point is lost under a sea of attitude. Shame.

@lbrandy: Awesome, if slightly mislabelled, work.