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asoidfgnionon San Francisco institution 'heartbroken and furious' after erasure of public art

>At the moment, it’s unclear whether CAMP has a written agreement for 3331 17th St. The organization, however, does have a verbal agreement with all the landlords/property owners where they have murals throughout the alley.

They claim to have arrangements with all property owners. Verbal arrangements are just as binding as written ones, though generally not a good idea as they are harder to prove.

asoidfgnionon San Francisco institution 'heartbroken and furious' after erasure of public art

https://missionlocal.org/2026/09/four-murals-in-clarion-alle...

>“CAMP has had both written and verbal agreements/understandings with property owners and landlords regarding murals on Clarion Alley for 34, going on 35 years,” read a statement from Clarion Alley Mural Project.

If there was an agreement in place, property rights would protect the murals from vandalism by the property owners, not the other way 'round.

I think you should consider why you immediately, and incorrectly, jump to the defense of moneyed interests over artists and community organizations.

asoidfgnionon San Francisco institution 'heartbroken and furious' after erasure of public art

This is one of the sources for the linked article:

https://missionlocal.org/2026/09/four-murals-in-clarion-alle...

This should have been mentioned in the original article. It also should be obvious, I think. Why would you assume that high-quality murals created by an established institution were done without proper legal arrangements?

asoidfgnionon Do people prefer stories written by AI?

I cannot judge fairly given that the stories are labeled, but the story about the koi is dreadful. It is about a supposedly mysterious subject—the machine at least insists it's mysterious—but it is so dull, so pedestrian, so cut-and-dry. "My mommy dying makes me sad but the peaceful koi pond helps me find peace". Blech.

Perhaps it only seems so banal because the competition is so engigmatic.

And what does it mean for something to smell of "sterile detachment"?