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Why use throwaway btw?
The whole thing reads like a script for an unreleased episode of The Office.
- A supposed Latin American account; only comments (whitewashing really) are on posts, issues or themes related to China - https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=RedCondor
- An account with no comments elsewhere, bar this thread, commenting on how they want to move to China because: affordable housing, "great Chinese society", "going to let go off freedoms, but whatabout public shootings in the US", etc etc. etc. This is the identical messaging to what China is using on other SM platforms - https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=tiny_ta
- A Chinese / Chinese nationalist's account. If you look through their comments you see they leave mostly political comments with the themes of "russia is winning" (China has been following russia's propaganda almost in almost a complete lockstep.), "USA has not right to intervene vis-a-vis Taiwan", "US elite", posting garbage from "resources largely excluded from the American mainstream" (as usual), 'conflict in Ukraine'. They left comments in this thread as well (a sad attempt at whitewashing Tiannamen). This is more relevant, however: https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=xtian&next=34628768#...
Now back to this thread. This is a curious case of an issue being relevant from both internal and external angles. The former - like I said before, the aim is to influence you. The latter - anyone within China who is contemplating to leave the country, just like the author is doing. China has been known to focus heavily on retaining people with technical skills within the country and also campaigning for skilled Chinese nationals to return back 'home'.
Chinese influence operations have been detected everywhere: from 4chan boards to youtube videos and [insert your social media platform here]. What would make HN an exception?
- “Taiwan is acqshually a dictatorship”
- “The integration of HK was managed extremely well”
- “China may have X, but whatabout Y in the US/decadent West/Europe”
- “That’s it, I’m moving to China. Any tips?”
I’m not saying any positive comments about China are manufactured. But given the amount of money and effort China spends on these type of influence operations, the context of this thread, and the type of audience HN attracts, chances are they are.
There are a few more, under different titles. I remember reading Dyson’s autobiography a couple of years ago and he mentioned his involvement in the research. Absolutely amazing stuff.
Oh your daughter is spending her gap year in South East Asia? Find her social media -> download the videos with a sample of her voice -> generate audio of her asking you to help/send money because "she was robbed at a gunpoint" -> message your phone number/WhatsApp/Facebook account etc.
These scams are possible now, but their quality will increase exponentially given that you won't need to know perfect English or be well versed in tech to do this.
Obviously, the alternative is a scenario reminiscent of an Elysium-like society, where AI-owning elites jet off to space, leaving the dying planet for the rest of us, the riff-raff, to fight for dwindling resources.
- A lot of value is being generated in service industry, technology, content creation (for balance)
- If AI starts to replace / automate swathes of industries, humans and some companies simply won’t have time to adjust resulting in a net loss to economy. See: horses and automobiles in early 20th century, except sped up x100
- Whatever value was generated by the said industries/businesses is now also usurped by AI companies. In significantly reduced quantities (interconnectedness of economies, less paying customers or users etc.)