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Does anyone know if we're still on pace with Moore's law?
> I'm an adult, I know how to circumvent these limits, and I will if motivation is low.
It's impossible to build systems that perfectly prevent you from doing this, but it is possible to build systems that can perfectly deter you from doing it. You could set up one - for example - that texts your spouse if you delete it. Or charges your bank account. Or whatever other doomsday device you want to rig up.
> Time limits don't affect the underlying addiction. You don't quit smoking by only smoking certain hours of the day.
Yeah but if you could encode cigarettes to ween you off of them by force, that'd be a big help. Also cigarettes don't have any real utility, so cold turkey is a reasonable strategy. Unfortunately the social media platforms have real utility, so a guardrail strategy makes more sense.
> The companies that build these apps have tens of thousands of really smart people (and billions of dollars) trying to get me hooked and keep me engaged. The only way to win this game isn't by trying to beat them (I certainly can't), but by not playing.
When it's all said and done, someone is going to build the right set of digital environment modification tooling that does beat them. It has to be possible, the internet is intrinsically customizable
The actual chess community's takeaway from this (if consensus is important to you) is that Kramnik (the accuser) has lost it a bit.
Source: I am a developer of Clearspace, which is an iOS Screen Time App https://apps.apple.com/us/app/clearspace-reduce-screen-time/...
It doesn't really feel like "forcing users into adtech surveillance platforms" if they're using Android - they already have a Google account it's literally built into the operating system.
The goal was and is to minimize friction and maximize security. For all the flaws of consumer subscription as a business model, it's beauty is that we don't have perverse incentives. Users pay us to protect their attention so we make money by being good at that. We don't have to or want to sell their data.
In any Apple device, In settings -> Screen Time there's an option for "share across devices". If that is turned on, all devices will report your cumulative totals. So if you're interested in retrieving your screen time from all your devices, you can turn that on and then your iPhone will report everything, which you could retrieve with this API. But you wouldn't be able to differentiate where the screen time came from.
We don't sell your usage data.
No
> Does it require using clearspace
Yes in the sense that it needs to downloaded and logged in on your phone. No in the sense that you don't have to open it or use it after setup
2. Log in with that account to the Clearspace app which uses on-device permission to report your data to the API
3. Use API key associated with that account to fetch your data or be notified about changes to it
Does that answer?
- lock/unlock apps
- exclude some apps from total screen time calculation
- get data about specific app usage
Would recommend creating an account in the API docs first because that way when you log into Clearspace you'll get an onboarding for API setup rather than general setup of the app
Maybe other apps in future will report data to the API as well
thescreentimenetwork.com is effectively a list of people doing just that. Does that answer your question?
This is unreasonable. Test environment is never the same as prod. It's irresponsible to anyone you're actually accepting money from not to try the E2E flow in production.
Even if card processing is identical, who is say everything else in your flow is? It's either going to be you or a stranger on the internet being the first to try it for real.
the mechanics of how things that we take for granted actually got built and what the world they were made in was likeThis isn't consistent with the data. I'm a cofounder of Clearspace and we see that when people make it through the first two weeks, they stick around for months or years.
YMMV - because our feature set looks slightly different - half users are in a mode where you have to do pushups to unlock distracting apps which really does tend to stick for people that opt in. (like this https://x.com/_oliver_hill/status/1825605422885253445)
1. more flexible: if you want to change the type of friction for unlocking your apps we can enable that. instead of a 15 second breath to unlock app, you could activate "walk 100 steps to unlock" (as measured by healthkit). or "leave your house in the morning to unlock" (as measured by your location.)
2. cross-platform: compulsive tech usage follows us many of us to our laptops. we're building consistent experiences cross-platform for those who want it. (our chrome extension is the first example of this)
3. more robust: right now we're providing a moderating force that's ultimately avoidable if you're motivated enough to delete the app. we're building to allow users to opt-in to systems they literally can't get around, should they want this level of restriction. (clearspace "teammates" are the first example of this)