anonymous_green

Seriously? BTW! I just checked the calculator again and the time I was offered a job, there was no calculator then. The calculator pretty much offers the same amount that I asked for but still Gitlab decided to waste by time by saying we expect to pay 70-80k max. The range is clearly 115-120k and I don't think you understand the concept of remote teams when this range can be quite different than US which I explained to your HR as well.

..because financials is something people hope a company to be more open. It takes quite alot of courage to honestly reveal all the salaries. Then you wouldn't need a calculator anymore. So probably you should consider when you are acquiring talent, talent may set the price based on their own needs and have a right to negotiate. You shouldn't first of all, build an annoyingly outdated calculator and give it to HR to reject good talent and rely on community to mess up when the decision to build that calculator was mostly to serve company's own purpose. (which probably why its more biased to downpaying employees)

This is quite common they like to brand themselves as startup and remote company with all their slimy tactics to pay their employees below market rate. I've had their team deny the proof that the salary expectation I asked for is with-in the normal range even if they are a remote company and a startup.

Nobody should be paid as low as 50-60k per annum when they expect people to perform same as someone paid 90-120k. Here are some of the links where I raised this point as well:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13549948 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10924957

This link suggests their average salaries to be 115k but their calculator is just for people who they'd like to scam into paying below par.

https://www.indeed.com/salaries/Gitlab-Salaries

Cost-cutting measure don't just end at the office space level, they hire cheap developers too. There's quite a big divide between salaries they pay to their team in US and remote team and they get to do it just because they are "remote".

> If what OP is saying is true, then the company might as well be upfront about it.

Regardless of that, the average salaries are posted online and they seem to suggest quite the opposite to what they offer people outside of US. It's just an indication of how much of a bully culture they have in negotiations or discriminatory, they might as well just outsource the site and not have a team of their own at all.

It's unfair to pay low to some and high to the other (as I pointed out earlier most of their employees are in US who are getting paid the average US salary).

A company should follow some rules to neutralise the discrimination between employees, it shouldn't be all pick and choose and take advantage where they can, that's not really the reason one should have a remote distributed team to get cheap labor.

Most of their staff is from US/UK, but they just do not want to pay fair wages, which is why I posted the other thread where it was highlighted more.

Probably they cut cost by hiring a group of really incompetent set of developers because they are a "startup" and "transparent" and "its ok". Nothing could make state of the company more "transparent" than that. xD

Yes, but if you look at the average here its not really outrageous or "5 times the average salary" as you said, here: https://www.indeed.com/salaries/Gitlab-Salaries

And its not just me, they've done this in the past as well: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10924957

Also when you work for a remote company, they are cutting cost in terms of office and all which should reflect back in the salaries, the whole idea of working remotely was to mutually benefit both the employeer and employee and not just gitlab using their whole startup argument to cop out when they want on that "truly remote" so-called transparent company.

Transparency? Gitlab is the company that interviews people and rejects them on basis of salary, they've been doing this for awhile, every few months they call a group of people, waste their time and then deny based on the salary. In my case, I've confronted them that USD 100-120k is the market average but they had this stupid startup argument that doesn't make any sense to me.