anon23423532

I cited a direct NAFTA bylaw, that a product can be considered Mexican or Canadian if 50-60% of it is sourced from those countries, hence China doesn't need to be mentioned directly in the article. Take a trip to Vancouver sometime and tell me there isn't a large Chinese presence.

The fact you assume anyone you don't agree with or who provides information contrary to mainstream opinion a bot is the sign of a stunted mind.

What benefits Apple doesn't benefit all americans. God forbid Apple lose some revenue to stop China from stealing billions of IP from other American companies. In the best case scenario China will obey international trade laws, Apple won't be affected and the IP theft will stop.

"North American content required to qualify for NAFTA is set at between 50-60 percent under Chapter 4. With this low bar, many PRC goods and services can be regarded as Canadian products"

It's not just steel, it's basically any product due to NAFTA.

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/economy-budget/344621-...

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-trade-nafta/nafta-meeting...

https://www.tecma.com/nafta-rules-of-origin-important/

It gives Chinese companies a competitive advantage because instead of spending billions on R&D they just steal it.

The point is that the tariffs will be removed IF China stops stealing IP

They tariffed our "allies" because our "allies" allow China to setup shell corporations in their countries so China can abuse trade agreements to get around direct tariffs. In return they make billions for being willing to stab the US in the back.

We need to do this because China steals 300 billion dollars in IP from American corporations every year, in addition to illegally subsidizing their companies to steal global market share

The iraq war had majority support because the intel community lied to the country and told them if we didn't go fight that millions would die from "weapons of mass destruction". In reality it was because Sadam had started selling oil in Euros instead of dollars

Do you believe in evolution and genetics? Different races have various different afflictions, sickle-cell, tay-sachs, cancer rates, etc. Different facial structure, average height, body fat distribution, muscle mass, limb length, etc.

You would have to deny evolution and genetic inheritance to think that different groups of people living apart for tens of thousands of years in vastly different environments didn't result in selection via external forces to better survive in those environments. Just look at the body type difference between an eskimo and a sub-Saharan african.

If you like corruption sure:

FBI Employee: “How did the (witness) go?”

Agent 1: “Awesome. Lied his ass off… Ridic(ulous).”

FBI Employee: “Would be funny if he was the only guy charged in this deal.”

Agent 1: “I know…. Even if he said the truth and didn’t have a clearance when handling the secure fax – ain’t no one gonna do (bleep).”

Truly a beacon of truth for all American's to follow

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/columnists/howie_carr/2018/...

They can try selling to other customers, but US is still around 25% of global GDP and probably a larger percentage of the market for the components that have been tariffed. Chinese government would have to print a lot of money to make up for that, which causes it's own issues, especially when considering the amount of debt China has already racked up.

The point isn't for the government to skim 25%, it's to get China to trade fairly or if worse comes to worse bring manufacturing back to the US.

In the event of a trade war US has leverage because we have the market and a essential product, food. US consumers can live without another 42in tv, Chinese can't live without food and they are entirely dependent on importing that food.

If manufacturing moves elsewhere and a few million already disgruntled Chinese are out of jobs, Chinese government has big problems. Their impotent threat towards the US ag industry is also laughable when we produce 40-50% of the worlds soybeans and corn. Increasing food prices for the millions of unemployed workers is surely a winning strategy

Cheap labor is plentiful, there's only one US consumer market. China has no leverage here.

It's punishment for stealing hundreds of billions of dollars of IP, illegally subsidizing businesses to steal market share, and general national security by not outsourcing knowledge and infrastructure critical to national security to save a few bucks.

It's easy to let someone push you back inch by inch instead of fighting back, but eventually you're on the edge of a cliff and have nowhere else to go.

I'd take short term pain over one day waking up and realizing that China has total control over manufacturing for everything essential for modern life and in exchange we got cheap consumer goods for a few years.