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What a sophisticated opinion.

Not necessarily, if Haiku performs better than Luna.

Fable is still better than Astra and Fable is not the best model Anthropic has.

Really? Anthropic has the strongest models and it's in the best position to begin RSI and win the race. A pause would favor competitors.

It's a quixotic crusade, in perfect European style.

Which benchmarks? Only the ones OpenAI cherry-picked.

It debuted as ~same score as Sol on Artificial Analysis. People couldn't accept it so they had to change the formula.

The model is a big step forward only in desktop use and 3D. That's impressive, but for software engineering, Fable is still in a league of its own.

These are often experimental models that haven't undergone full safety testing. Not comparable to publicly accessible models.

It's patently obvious at this point.

This is not saying much. Opus 4.8 is ancient history.

That's not my experience and I suspect it's not most people's experience. Out of curiosity, what's the hardest task you tried?

> Sol is so much better than Fable 5

I'm genuinely so confused when people say this with a straight face. Are you talking about coding? Desktop use? Prose? Or something else?

Sol is a much smaller models and it shows. It often misses the forest for the trees.

Artificial Analysis just published their aggregate score (61).

Still below Fable 5, let alone Fable 5.1.

EDIT: This is suspiciously low. Calls the relevance of existing benchmarks into question.

> Performance is significantly higher than Fable 5.1

That's not clear. Need to see independent benchmarks first.

What is a concrete example of an ad you are seeing that it can't remove?

uBlock Origin Lite

That says more about you than Moderna:

https://totalrealreturns.com/n/MRNA,SPY

MRNA has vastly outperformed the market since IPO.

You know many stocks have done better than the SP500, right?

Oh yeah? Show me your discounted cash flow analysis.

> hooking up slop to slop is just unlikely to produce anything valuable

Do you have a formal proof of that?

Really? This just tells me you haven't tried it in a long time. I'd argue it's a much better experience for the average user.

Do you work at OpenAI?

There's no shortage of extremely valuable problems to solve.

Are you assuming it won't?

Fable finished training 6+ months ago.

At this point, Anthropic only needs to release models to the public when the competition forces them to.

OpenAI also has a better model (Astra) that they haven't released yet.

You're getting downvoted but you're exactly right

This is why engineers don't make money trading markets

Much better business instinct that the average poster on HN

Google's return of invested capital has averaged 32% since IPO.

This may be a narrative violation on HN, but the quality of Google's management is exceptional.

I'm not defending Dario. That's not the point I'm making.

Yeah, I think the answer is somewhere in between. Anthropic has been a few months ahead of everybody in terms of internal capabilities.

So it's not 6 months but it's also not a few weeks.