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Oh, like the video metrics scandal? Or how their ads are shown to more people in an area than physically exist?

Of course the counter-argument is "makes money". That first of all doesn't make a good CEO (if you put no money into maintaining your site, for example), second of all it ignores all the fraud

Outside basic network effects like real names Facebook has contributed essentially nothing of value to the world. (And no, don't tell me "React, Pytorch". People were screaming about React's license) The network effects barely matter too because their AI bans you whenever and feeds are so useless you never see what anyone posts

Instagram went from a site for photographers to Reels everywhere (and login walls on every page)

Zuckerberg is awful. Awful, awful, awful.

This is why he buys anything. I can't speak to Whatsapp but Instagram is horrific now precisely because he doesn't give a damn about making a good product. All he wants is to own the network effects, and credentials, and data

I was going to say. It's not 'the company', it's him. He has majority voting rights on everything

And before this gets flagged or downvoted or "he was young" or "he was joking" or "he was making a point: he was saying 'I could be anyone', not that he can't be trusted" answer me what other tech people say this, ever, along with all the other charges ("I'm going to fuck them [the Winklevoss twins] in the ear", "You can be unethical and legal and that's how i live my life haha", hacking Crimson reporters, and that's just at Harvard, let alone when Facebook became available to the public

I guess that's fair. I guess I just see so many comments flagged that shouldn't be (though this one just said [dead], not flagged) that my mind chalks it up to HN being HN

Vouched. Guys, what the hell? This is the post author

You'd be surprised. They banned Christopher Wylie from Facebook. People routinely report their entire team (building some product for Facebook) getting their accounts banned

Zuckerberg takes things personally. It's his entire history

"And all that" is a linguistic trick to imply "yes, this is being discussed -"

Information wants to be free and all that but there's a sense in which AI really is real intellectual property theft in an ethical sense compared to others and of _course_ it was Facebook who steals from everyone where Zuckerberg personally approved it

Their bots are also apparently the worst. Google does not put huge strain on your public-facing website (I think). Facebook does, they're incredibly malicious about it

I'm getting sick of the ads. It's in every NHL commercial break, Rogan (though I don't know about it now) has them as sponsors

Guys, it's predatory. Stop

There are messages, by the way. I'm paraphrasing, but it's something like "So, Mark messaged me saying he thinks it would be a good idea if he bought Instagram, what if I tell him no" "He'll go into destroy mode" "What if I <something I forget>" "Then he'll go further into destroy mode"

But of course you can't tell the public this, Zuck's reputation in the Valley. So it indeed becomes the feel-good story about Our Beautiful Journey

CA is a scandal primarily due to account escalation, I thought. Not about who got elected

But shadow ads can be a problem too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQSMr-3GGvQ (you can be pro-Brexit but ads like this are still a problem)

Yeah +1 to this

People use text with LLMs but it's great to have a high fidelity "analyze this image"

I mean there are people who have reported that with their own personal website Facebook's crawlers were essentially DDOSing them

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/government-election... Here's a fun little interview. They had a program that apparently worked, for much cheaper than Michael Hayden's program (I think Trailblazer). Got shelved apparently due to "not expensive enough". 9/11 happens and Binney contends his ThinThread program could have stopped it. You don't want more dragnet surveillance; even beyond the abuses, it leads to it being harder to catch things

Once again, yet another legitimate comment that was [dead] that I had to 'vouch' for. HN either has broken filters (understandable, combatting spam) or seriously loves censorship

I'm sorry that I keep posting this but it gets said often enough that I'm just going to hopefully kill it permanently

People say repeatedly Instagram was a 'great acquisition' (it was. It destroyed Facebook's competition. Great for them, not for users). That Zuckerberg bought it when it was 'barely a company'. That it's somehow not antitrust (Zuckerberg in emails: "Instagram can hurt us"). People loved Instagram. Not anymore, not for a long time. Stop giving him the benefit of the doubt

Apparently buying up everything is "brilliant acquisitions" and something to be celebrated. I don't get it. People just want him to succeed no matter what even after he's shown his true colors

Myspace had certain problems and probably didn't scale well, it had UX problems and management problems, combine that with the fact people wanted better granularity of privacy settings (though to be fair, Myspace was decent about it. There was a publically visible wall, but, still) and Facebook seemed to offer that, but of course Zuckerberg continually subverts the settings because he does not care about privacy (Facebook actively has switched people from 'friends only' to 'friends of friends' or 'public', multiple times), and also the fact Facebook apparently built a tool early on to import your contacts to Facebook from Myspace, but, of course, not the other way around

Google later offered a prompt in their own services, because Facebook was hoovering up contacts or... something, I forget

Zuckerberg actively wants a monopoly. He's, in my estimation, a sociopath. He got lucky, but 'lucky' also means 'internet 2006'. If you steal the Winklevoss' product (something he apparently also did with 'Metaverse'. The twins meant it in some sort of bitcoin sense, Zuckerberg co-opted it) you too can capture the literally entire global market, because the world was just coming online in those years

I don't remember this but I do know about their Free Basics nonsense where people had letters supplied on their behalf by Facebook to India's telecom authority

That and a lot else Facebook does is a primary sin, end of story. This isn't conservative vs liberal. It's one very cynical man's view of humanity. I have very little respect for Mark Zuckerberg, and much contempt for him

Ah, yes. The standard pipeline scammy ad/post -> report -> This Does Not Violate Our ...

Bonus points if you can get banned for any reason, by contrast, on sites like Facebook

Fuck all of you. Shut them all down, jail time for execs

Ok, I have not heard about the airmiles ticket; elaborate?

I play chess and I'm basically with you

It's just a board game

You know why? Because Acton and Koum arranged the carrier deals prior to the acquisition. That's what Zuckerberg bought, to enlargen his war chest. It's not his product, it's something he effectively stole

I stand by what I said, and screw you.

People perhaps won't remember the long history of computer chess at least how it played out in the 90s

There was a succession of interesting engines (I think The King used to win a number of computer tournaments, this is the one Chessmaster used, that wonderful audio-visual program, like Encarta but chess related) and then the big three of Fritz (match against Kramnik), Junior (match against Kasparov) and Shredder. And also HIARCS and later, Rybka (and Crafty, as well, touted as the open source chess engine)

Stockfish has been top dog (fish?) for a while now but there was a notable exception when AlphaZero (which later became Leela? I'm not sure) beat it, but these days of course Stockfish is far and away the best engine (I guess. I don't know how far behind Leela is)

And, yes, human vs computer chess has stopped being interesting for a while. There were some centaur chess (human and computer; humans using computers to analyze) competitions in the 2000s and some interesting things but nowadays of course your phone can handedly beat Magnus Carlsen and others without problems, reliably

HN loves drive-by downvotes. It's a real shame.

Why is it fine in isolation? Should you not get exactly the pushback you'd expect from saying that? As a clear joke, maybe less. I don't think he was joking though

The company is hurting people outside the 'bubble'.