alex-e

Do you think it's possible to build an immediate UI wrapper on top of Win32 and Cocoa?

I'm trying to solve this right now with eul[0]. It's not an easy task.

[0]: https://eul.im

> Too bad most email clients have removed plain text rendering these days. I also haven't found a good mobile plain text email client yet.

eul [1] only has plain text rendering. It only supports Gmail right now, but a full-fledged email client is coming soon. A mobile app will be released in early 2018.

[1] https://eul.im

You are right to be cautious.

Like the home page says, the binaries are not signed yet, that's why Windows is complaining. Documents are being verified right now, getting a code signing certificate is a slow process unfortunately.

There will be a paid option soon. The app sends nothing to the server, only error reports.

eul uses 5x less RAM on average.

There's a new native desktop app for Slack, Skype, WhatsApp, etc:

https://eul.im/slack

It's only 4 MB and can handle tens of thousands of messages in one chat without lag.

The more services the better. But not right now.

Hi,

eul is a very lightweight and fast native desktop client for Skype, Slack, Gmail, HipChat, VK, Facebook, Jabber, Telegram, and Signal. Right now only the first four are supported, and the rest should be done by the end of September.

Why did I create this? To solve two big problems I see with the current IM solutions: there are too many of them, and the clients are ridiculously bloated for what they are built to do. For example, everyone knows what a huge resource hog the Skype client is. Even the Telegram client, which is supposed to be lightweight, is using 1.3 GB of RAM on my desktop right now.

I'm obsessed with performance. The entire application is about 4 MB, and it's never going to be more than 10 MB. In fact there are still many things to optimize. It's native, so you don't need to download a 100 MB browser just to use your IM client. eul can display thousands of messages in one conversation without the constant page fetching. The scrolling is instant and smooth. You can jump to any message without waiting. I've tested it with 50 000 messages in one chat. No lags, instant scrolling to any point, instant search. That should be enough for most :)

This is a beta release. Some essential features are still missing (for example, images and other attachments are not supported yet). Automatic updates will be released every day. There's a built in contact form, please use it to submit bugs and suggestions.

Looking forward to your feedback.

Thanks

I am :)

Right now I'm working on setting up the company.

Speaking of the bloated slack client, there's a new native desktop app for Slack, Skype, and many others:

https://eul.im

It's only 4 MB and uses ~100 MB RAM.

In about 6 hours.

You are right. On the other hand it would be nice to have all protocols supported in one app, so one day IRC support will definitely be there.

Yeah, I know about this. The fix will be live soon. It's not a virus, nothing is being sent anywhere. It's just poor implementation from my part.

You are right. You can't even copy text right now. These little UI things will gradually be implemented very soon.

Are you a member of multiple Slack orgs?

Yes, this will be fixed asap. I was testing the Linux build in a VM that doesn't support hidpi, sorry about that.

WhatsApp is very tricky, but not impossible.

How much would you personally be willing to pay?

It doesn't run on El Capitan? What kind of an error do you get? Can you send more details to support@eul.im?

Thanks

Thanks for pointing that out, I need to update whois data. I'm using an 8 year old throwaway name registrar account, because my primary registrar doesn't support .im domains.

I should get the code signing certificate by the end of the next week.

From scratch, I was inspired by gxui.

It's very basic right now (you can't even move a cursor with the mouse).

I will definitely write a couple of posts about this!

Thanks, I think I know what causes it. Will fix asap.

I think RAM usage is important. My machine only has 8 GB of RAM, and I had to quit Telegram (1.1 GB) and Skype (550 MB) every time I launched a virtual machine to compile eul for other platforms :)

Thanks for reporting! What's Lineage?

It absolutely is!

I'm going to work on signing the executables for all platforms.

No, Hangouts is pretty much dead. It's email. You can add your gmail contacts, and communicate with them through a chat-like interface.

Unfortunately right now it's IM only. I'm almost certain it's not possible to implement Skype audio calls, but I'll look into that.

There is! Jabber == XMPP :) It will be supported very soon.

Yes, that's a very important point. I'll update the website to notify the user about the unsigned binary issue.

I can't sign them at this point, but I will apply as soon as possible.

Right now macOS and Windows 10 complain about an unreliable executable (as they should).

Thanks for testing it. Strange that it crashes on Mac, I'll check the logs and investigate.

Thanks!

Matrix will definitely be implemented at some point. Not within the first 2 months unfortunately.

Yes, my standards are pretty high, but like I said before here, I do consider open sourcing it.

Ideally yes, that's what should happen. But it's very unlikely...