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The electric bill makes a big difference, because you're really looking at the relative cost of two different forms of energy -- electrical and chemical (fuel). The last time I calculated it, the cost of running an ICE was around 20% more expensive (in my area) than a BEV, but a PHEV was within a percent or so of owning a BEV.
I'm curious to know what percentage of EV owners in Norway have a second car. I'd imagine the uptake rate for families that can afford to own more than one vehicle is significantly higher than for those that can't, but I've never seen any stats on the matter. The reality is that for most people, a car is the second largest purchase they'll ever make (if not the largest), so utility has to be high on the list of priorities. I'm not entirely convinced EVs have the utility to overtake ICE vehicles just yet, especially when incentives are removed.
I'd count on even less than that. Industrial solar farms average a capacity factor of around 20-25%, dropping as low as 10%. And that's with farms built for maximizing sunlight. A car is likely to do far worse, especially when you consider imperfect conditions, and how frequently people park indoors. If it's a tossup between protecting my car from the elements, and getting a few miles a day of charge, I'm going to choose the former.
I think the problem is that touchscreens get ported to applications where there should be a reasonable expectation that the end user is an expert in the system. For example, cars, and aircraft. Touchscreens are great when you have portable systems that have to condense a lot of functionality into a small device, but I don't want to be in a position where a pilot has to touch the correct button on a touchscreen in the middle of serious turbulence. Likewise, no driver should be taking their eyes off the road to navigate to the air-conditioning tab. Applying touchscreens in these situations is not only bad engineering, it's outright dangerous. You have to demonstrate competent control of a vehicle just to operate it, so we shouldn't be assuming operators are brand new users that aren't committed to the product.
That said, I think seating pitch and spacing is definitely a conversation that needs to be had. I'm an average-sized guy, and I have a hard time with today's airline seats. I would hate to see what it's like for someone taller. There definitely needs to be more stringent regulation of airline seating to mitigate ever-vanishing personal space.
Jesus. Someone failed thermodynamics.
The whole infinite power from space argument seems problematic. Even assuming you just meant "a large, globally significant amount of power", I'm guessing that the inverse-square law and heat buildup would sink the idea. I can only imagine the dead zone surrounding the location where we beam petawatts of radiation down from orbit. It would make our worst ecological disasters look like a joke in comparison.
Given how we've managed to improve on nature in other domains (see solar cell efficiency, for example), I think that if we can figure out how intelligent organisms manage to learn so quickly we can likely beat nature's efficiency.
We seem to be looking at intelligence in humans and thinking we need to develop that, without first defining what intelligence actually is. We don't exist in isolation, and it's likely that the components of intelligence exist to varying degrees in other organisms. In the same way that birds, bats, gliders and insects all have wings that generate lift, what are the things that we have in common with other animals?
As an example, a tradie who runs their own business might very well rack up enough hours driving that an EV just wouldn't work for them (not to mention the likelihood of carrying tools or towing trailers). Or what happens if you get home late and the street charger is taken?
EVs seem great on the surface, but are they necessarily practical for the average person? I mean, they could be an iPhone moment, but they could also be an Amazon delivery drone moment, too.
A non-shifting static margin is certainly a benefit for electric aircraft, but we already successfully design aircraft that do have a shifting static margin. The interesting question is whether or not a constant mass would let you design airframes that would be impossible with fuel and ICE.
1-2 hours looks possible using current and near-future technology, but has anyone actually done a cost analysis on flying electric aircraft that are always at "full fuel" weight versus standard aircraft doing the same journey with half a tank? I can't imagine it's completely cut and dry, because the aerospace industry has had its eye on various forms of electric propulsion for decades.
Also, what's the turnaround on these things? Airlines want to make money, so they want to minimize the amount of time the aircraft spends on the ground. That's going to be a major hurdle, since even charging 2MWh over the course of an hour or so requires 2MW of power going into the vehicle. That's not an ungodly amount, but it's still non-trivial.
I was pointing out that the reasoning was flawed. The engine is not the limiting factor in the design of the wing, and in fact can let you reduce the mass of the wing. An electric motor and airframe might be lighter than an engine and airframe depending on the design. However, you do need to compare the battery weight with the fuel weight, because the energy has to come from somewhere, and an airframe is designed with that reduction in weight in mind. It's hard to stress just how important energy density is for an aircraft.
Customers are definitely willing to trade time for cheaper flight (Boeing made this gamble and won in the last airframe generation), but there are certain practicalities that need to be met.
The second problem with battery-electric aviation is that most large aircraft aren't designed to land at their take-off weight. Landing gear typically comprises some of the heaviest materials on the airframe, so landing at a lighter weight than you take off at is a big advantage. This also manifests in the range of the vehicle. Burning fuel reduces the power needed to maintain lift, which give you additional range with your remaining fuel. By comparison, range with battery-powered aircraft would be linear.
The last hurdle is just the sheer energy density required. A 747 requires 50-60MW just to stay airborne at cruise, and will produce on the order of 250MW during take-off. Even a business jet produces ~10-15MW at max power, and will cruise at around 1.5-3MW. Over the course of a 10 hour flight, the lower bound is somewhere around 10-15MWh, which would be 37-56 metric tonnes of battery mass using the upper limit of current battery energy density (265Wh/kg). Keep in mind, it's not enough just to get to your destination, you also need a reserve while you're in the holding pattern, plus an additional safety factor.
There might be interesting new markets opening up in the personal air-taxi space, but I'm skeptical. Personally, I think the new wave of short-haul rooftop-hopping electric aircraft will prove to be a black hole money-pit, and a regulatory nightmare. The aerospace industry is littered with broken dreams.