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adrianparlow··on Launch HN: PointOne (YC W24) – Automated time tracking for lawyers
Send us an email or book a call through our site - we would love to chat!
adrianparlow··on Launch HN: PointOne (YC W24) – Automated time tracking for lawyers
This is awesome! 7.6/10 -- we'll take it!
adrianparlow··on Launch HN: PointOne (YC W24) – Automated time tracking for lawyers
In our experience they do! The smarter the LLM, the less pre/post-processing you can get away with and still get a good output. So no, you can't just throw raw log data at it, but it doesn't require nearly as much work as it did 2-3 years ago
adrianparlow··on Launch HN: PointOne (YC W24) – Automated time tracking for lawyers
Thank you so much for the support! We would always love intros to any lawyers who hate time tracking.

We completely agree about supporting large firms, either with on-prem or deployment within their cloud environment.

adrianparlow··on Launch HN: PointOne (YC W24) – Automated time tracking for lawyers
We're starting to see more and more of this actually! Some kinds of legal work fit flat fees well -- eg. immigration or company incorporations. Other kinds are highly variable and unpredictable (eg. litigation or anything involving external negotiations) and so will likely remain on the billable hour
adrianparlow··on Launch HN: PointOne (YC W24) – Automated time tracking for lawyers
Thank you! We think it's a less obvious but very useful application for LLMs
adrianparlow··on Launch HN: PointOne (YC W24) – Automated time tracking for lawyers
My brain definitely started to experience life in 6 min increments as well, even after just the first few months at a firm!

We do have a couple different approaches to filter out non-work. As far as firm management, we think there's a lot of useful information in time data that firms can leverage, but at the same time we don't want this to turn into spyware so we're mindful of only exposing aggregated/anonymized data

adrianparlow··on Launch HN: PointOne (YC W24) – Automated time tracking for lawyers
Without getting into too much detail, our approach is more metadata-based as screenshots/OCR are pretty noisy and expensive to work with. Shoot me an email if you like, happy to chat! adrian@pointone.ai
adrianparlow··on Launch HN: PointOne (YC W24) – Automated time tracking for lawyers
It depends somewhat on the practice area (eg. are you going to court a lot) but we find the vast majority of work is either on the computer, phone/tablet, or listed in the lawyer's calendar
adrianparlow··on Launch HN: PointOne (YC W24) – Automated time tracking for lawyers
These are really great points, and data privacy/security is probably the top concern from big firms. Hosting locally is definitely where this is headed for all the reasons you mentioned
adrianparlow··on Launch HN: PointOne (YC W24) – Automated time tracking for lawyers
One thing I personally find exciting is that by making attorneys more efficient we can increase the supply of available legal services, which hopefully allows underserved populations more access
adrianparlow··on Launch HN: PointOne (YC W24) – Automated time tracking for lawyers
It has, but it's been very hard to accomplish technically prior to modern LLMs
adrianparlow··on Launch HN: PointOne (YC W24) – Automated time tracking for lawyers
I think privacy for the end user is really important here, which means letting the user review and edit the time entries generated before they submit to the billing system. Ultimately we view this is a tool to help the end-user
adrianparlow··on Launch HN: PointOne (YC W24) – Automated time tracking for lawyers
Thank you for this! Our site copy can definitely use a refresh
adrianparlow··on Launch HN: PointOne (YC W24) – Automated time tracking for lawyers
Definitely, works just as well for paralegals and support staff
adrianparlow··on Launch HN: PointOne (YC W24) – Automated time tracking for lawyers
Surprisingly, in some cases yes. The most important thing for us is accurately capturing time worked, and then we leave it up to the attorney how much they want to bill vs. write off
adrianparlow··on Launch HN: PointOne (YC W24) – Automated time tracking for lawyers
There's been a lot of talk about lawyers shifting off the billable hour model and towards value-based billing. We think fixed fee models will take many years to saturate the market, but things are definitely heading in that direction (esp. for simple / repeatable projects)
adrianparlow··on Launch HN: PointOne (YC W24) – Automated time tracking for lawyers
Yes! We support Windows, MacOS, and some actions on mobile. Trying to track time when you're running from place to place (ie. law firm partners) is super tough
adrianparlow··on Launch HN: PointOne (YC W24) – Automated time tracking for lawyers
It's absolutely a tough problem. Right now we have a couple mechanisms to try and address these issues. When we onboard a firm we can ingest their historical billing data, which lets us pattern match the style of new entries. We can also ingest client guidelines for the same purpose.
adrianparlow··on Launch HN: PointOne (YC W24) – Automated time tracking for lawyers
It's definitely something we're thinking about. From what we've seen lawyers have some of the most nitty and granular time entries (= highest pain) but it's a problem in any industry that bills hourly.