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They eat lots of animals but bats are not one of them. (I'm sure there is a village in China where they do eat bats. It is a big country.)
The photos you see online of Chinese people eating bats are Tourist in the Pacific.
If you don't know the source (which is still unknown) then you cannot verify that it has spread human to human. (They should have assumed that it did)
Researches outside of China said there was no evidence of human to human transmission.
The first 2 weeks of January were handled rather poorly. But lack of information since then isn't really one of them.
What could China have done that would have made you personally happy?
People automatically distrust anything they say. What other information could they have provided?
He is/was also a member of the CCP.
Either one is true or the other is true.
People don't live with bats. The animals they farm live near bats.
That kind of not sharing information?
The Doctor wasn't jailed ...
The virus was spread at the market. It didn't start at the market.
Until we know where it started we don't know if it would have stopped the virus or not.
I don't know why Wikipedia is missing a lot of the public information that happened before the 31st. The local government was notified on the 28th. The National government was notified on the 30th. Other hospitals in the region were notified around this time as well.
His "leak" came while a lot of people were being notified about this problem. It "looks" like they would have notified the public and WHO a few days later once they had more information.
We still don't know if the original source is the seafood market. The fact that not all the cases came from there doesn't mean much. The SARS expert (Guan Yi) from Hong Kong said that there was no proof of human to human transmission on the 3rd.
You've counted time before anyone knew it existed in your 2-month delay. The first death was on the 10th. Less than 50 people have the virus. The probably should have done something then or on the 15th (second death).
There was a delay but more like 2 weeks compared to 2 months. If you are saying that they should have done something before they knew it existed then ... what should they have done?
As it is people are constantly bashing them for doing something.
What do you think they should have done and when?
The earliest case was found at the start of December but it wasn't correctly identified till the end (they went back and tested existing patients).
It wasn't confirmed as being able to spread person to person until the 17th although there was some evidence that it should have been identified on the 11th. (So a delay of either 5 or 10 days rather than 2 months)
The doctor didn't raise public concern. He told a few friends and told them not to tell people. The official announcement was made the following day.
If you look at the timetable it is significantly better than the SARs response or the N1H1 response so we seem to be learning and making progress which is good.
Go to WeChat Pay -> Health
The numbers are updated each day.
Someone else wants to check it (basically luck or maybe policy since SARs) and when they do they notice it is different - 7th of January then by the 14th, they have it sampled and they have detection kits.
Because of SARs Wuhan takes a few days to figure out what to do and then decide to quarantine the entire city. It is a rush job but they don't exactly have a lot of time.
From the real discovery (7th) to massive response time is 2 weeks. In the past it has often been over a month before anything effective is done. What would you do differently?
If you take a swab of someone and it comes back as a virus that causes the common cold what response do you expect?
A person gets a cold virus ... what should happen next?
It wasn't until it was sequenced that they found it was a new variant.
If you go from Shanghai to Suzhou via HSR a train goes roughly every 15 minutes. Most trains going east go through Suzhou (since it is a major hub) and it is roughly 30 minutes away which is a decent distance so worth stopping for. The train only gets to maximum speed for about 15 minutes in the middle.
Most high-speed trains don't carry all their fuel with them. They get it from the network.
This will all change as battery technology improves but at the moment I cannot see it getting better trains.
That being said I expect that the 1000km/h speed will be like the Shanghai to Beijing track that got up to maximum speed a few times for the record and has since been reduced to make it more economical.
Even if this does happen and the train reaches 1,000 for a single trip and then drops back to a safer and more profitable speed of 600km/h or 800km/h it is still faster than what we have now and is a massive improvement.
1. Direct - They have the least stops and are the fastest. They don't go into towns. They go around them. 2. Express - They only stop at the largest towns. 3. Regular - They are the slowest and stop at every town.
You then use timing to make sure that they don't crash. The slow train will generally stop on the track and wait while the direct overtakes it (you don't want them both moving at the same time).
This isn't new. It's be around for 100 of years.
I'm not sure about TMall but I know that in Beijing they used to have a distribution point roughly every 10km through the whole city.
When you used to setup your address you selected the closet distribution center to you (I assume because the maps were not setup then. You don't select it any more.)
When I buy packages in Shanghai about half of them are delivered through a 3rd party and the rest are direct. It may just be my area though. I assume it depends where the product is come from...
You are correct JD didn't exist back then since it used to be called 360buy and they used 3rd party shipping companies.
After becoming JD they started shipping themselves. Not sure about the year.
Probably right about JD but as far as I know Amazon didn't start doing logistics till after 2013.
Am I wrong about the dates?
Both JD & Taobao/Tmall have their own large shipping empires in China. I suspect that was part of the reason they pulled out. They could not compete using 3rd part shipping companies.
Now they are doing the same thing in their home market.
The general attitude of Chinese people that I speak to is that they are good but lots of other Chinese people are bad/don't follow rules. I constantly have Chinese people trying to protect me from other Chinese people that they are worried will try to take advantage of me.
It seems to be like breaking road rules. Everyone justifies themselves when they do it but other people are bad drivers when they break rules.
The general idea is that surveillance isn't for them but for other Chinese people which they are fine with.
That being said it is trusted a lot more than CCN & Foxnews which are the other two news sources that are on cable TV (neither are blocked at the moment).
I wouldn't really say that the BBC has a China-friendly stance. I would say that it tries to be more objective most of the time (which I agree with when compared to CCN & Fox News).
Most people use bikes or electric bikes to get to the metro or for short journies (probably at a ratio of 2 to 1) but people still want cars.
In Shanghai and Beijing, you can get an EV instantly but there is a quota for how many new ICE cars are added each month which means you go on a waiting list.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/wadeshepard/2016/04/23/chinas-l...
The probably is that a journalist that doesn't understand how China works stumbled onto a construction zone and didn't understand what they saw. Chinese build housing for half a million people at once fairly regularly. I've gone past multiple constructions sites like this.
They also build whole cities (which the ghost cities story was about) and they fill up. A bunch of people pre-buy and once they get a minimum buy-in they start construction. Once the city is mostly finished it still takes a while for everything else to be done inside BUT in China, they don't fence of construction sites at this stage while in developed countries they do. You can just walk in and look around. There are no squatters laws so people cannot just take your property and there are fewer liability issues so they don't really care.
The problem is that it cannot be contaminated so it either needs to be separated or it does become trash.
Corruption, greed and negligence seems to be everywhere.
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/04/ciscos-latest-attempt-...
I don't know if the Chinese firewall has been upgraded to Chinese hardware or if it is still running on US hardware. This kind of hardware often last for 10+ years so I would not be surprised if the hardware is still mostly from Cisco.
University starts again soon and it is expected that the protests will loose steam.
That's a boring story so people don't talk about it.
1. Creating competition between states/cities (Beijing vs Shanghai) which has similar advantages to the free market EVEN if both groups are part of the government. This tries to reduce waste and puts natural pressure on companies (including ones that are state owned).
2. Encouraging close proximity (like silicon valley) by using grants, lower taxes, etc. This encourages lots of companies in the same industry to be close together and often in the same building. This encourages transfer of ideas and staff between companies. (economic development zones)
3. Limiting the number of economic development zones so that they are not all over the place.
To just ignore anything that Chinese companies have done and say it is all stolen or copied is rather biased.
Alipay and WeChat are probably the easiest example to look at. They both started very different (WeChat was just a copy of What's App, which is a copy of MSN messenger, which is a copy of AOL messengers, which is a copy of IRC which is a copy of netsend, which is a copy of telegrams, which is a copy of smake signals, etc... - everything is based on what came before it)
Slowly based on competition with each other they have stolen each other features and now do basically the same things. Forget about America (Facebook keeps copying features from WeChat).
Hope this helps to explain what the article does not explain.
As long as you are looking for GSM instead of CDMA and the frequencies are correct for your country have a look on sites like AliExpress and import them directly from China.