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I guess this approach can still work if it's made sure that whatever successors to LLMs there are have rights, but I still get sharecropper vibes.
There are movies like Haqueeqat, made in India after their military defeat in 1962. It's a black and white, realistic war movie (no Bollywood dancing). The entire movie is a big fuck you to the Indian government (Nehru in particular) for trusting China, having a Communist defense minister, putting the Indian military in a situation in which they need to have some crazy 10-1 kill ratio in the mountains while retreating, and villagers with little to no military training have to make a militia because troops cannot be deployed in time.
More egregiously, a Little Red Book gets bayoneted, a woman in the militia gets overtly raped as a form of torture by the Chinese, and children scream among all the dead bodies in the mountains. Also the end of the movie shows people voluntarily giving up their gold so that the government can buy weapons, which is a big "fuck you". Not only did the country get fucked over, but now people are giving up their gold (like Ottoman Turkey in WW1) so that the government can buy armaments.
Ironically, this film was funded by the same government it was criticizing. However, it was not censored at all, because the government at the time was very idealistic and considered this critique patriotic.
And yes, it's the same in the United States. There are plenty of films that criticize the US government or elements of it. In the 1950s, there were Westerns which did it. In the 70s and 80s, there were Vietnam war movies which did it. Post 9/11, you have Snowden-related movies, or even movies like Captain America 2.
However, yes the DoD offers many incentives for portraying US weapons systems as cool, or US forces in a positive light to "content" makers (I hesitate to call them films).
As Japan rearms to face China, and seeks to boost recruitment we will see more of this patriotic attitude. And maybe Godzilla will be China one day.
(It's hilarious, because in China's recent Korean War films, the United States is scarier than Godzilla to their troops who spend 80% of the movie running away and dying).
"That said, there are clear problems with the political narrative in the film Oppenheimer, given that it's supposed to be artwork. Making a film about a nuclear weapon without in any way extensively showcasing the result of it's use on a civilian population i.e. the consequences of the development of that weapon is extremely American and morally dubious at best...downright propaganda at worst. Were the American public and military rank and file the real victims of WW2 ()? Is it ok to pronounce the moral ambiguity of the top brass without commenting on the Holocaust-level crimes committed?
These things were glaring in the theater. And I know I'm going to get the standard 'MAGA move to a Commie country' for having an honest appraisal of the conceptual idea. But it's bad in that way. ..."
War is a complex issue and making a film about Japan's war crimes (the first installment of the Ip Man series was good with this) is something which has to be met with approval from its government who have their hands in film finance as well. Japan is not exactly a capitalist economy-- it is culturally a command economy and everyone listens to the government (this is actually one of the critiques of Shin Godzilla and even if this Godzilla movie).
There are not that many governments that are going to be thrilled about you making a movie shitting on their armed forces or speaking on their war crimes. In the United States, our first amendment protects give us tremendous leeway to do this, but there is a lot of other pressures which can be extorted to kill a film prior to release.
Scorcese recently released Killers of the Flower Moon, which is not about a Holocaust, but about a limited genocide, and people are already bitching about the length, and it is as long as a "rah rah America" Avengers movie. This kind of movie was hard to make in the United States. It would be impossible to make in Japan. People there have to use metaphors to talk about getting nuked (aside from Grave of the Fireflies showing the Tokyo Firebombing, which was worse). How are you supposed to use a metaphor for an Asian Holocaust? If they did it would it come off as insensitive to a Western viewer?
This is a political Godzilla movie. It's a movie about Japan dealing with post war recovery. Maybe next time, there will be a Godzilla who comes and frees all the slave labor in the Imphal India campaign (maybe involve the Indian film industry to reduce cost). Maybe you should pitch it to be developed here with US political assistance and pressure so that Japanese war crimes are addressed. It's certainly a good idea.
But I would hesitate from: -- being a hypocrite. -- critiquing simplistically without seeing the larger work of this director.
Hope we don't do that with AI. Pretty sure our AGI is going to be similar to that seen in the Alien franchise of films-- it essentially emulates human higher order logic with key distinctions.
India has a lot of people, and a 20th century police force attempting to deal with 21st century problems. There used to be sandbags and MG nests at all the airports and train stations because of potential terror attacks.
Now they are just cameras, which is an improvement. You have to keep in mind that people in India have only recently gotten access to the Internet and not all of them have internet literacy.
It is very challenging for the government to handle and very tempting for it to take authoritarian steps to control its citizens in lieu of education.
India does not restrict information from its citizens, but like most of the countries (including the United States and European countries), its agencies like CDOT and CDAC conduct surveillance like our government. Is this a good thing? No. But it's going to happen, and it's a good thing to keep the government in check when they exercise their surveillance power.
I suppose going to the media is a facet of that. The fact that someone can do this so openly without fear is proof that they really don't have much to fear from the Indian government.
As long as you didn't try to blow up an Air India plane in the 1980s, flee to another country and get cozy with the current prime minister's father, you don't need to worry about Ajit Doval sending technical support to your address.
At least one of the Founding Fathers of India (who authored the Constitution) as well as the current Commander in chief equivalent are both "low caste" background, as are plenty of other high profile important folks.
The only reason the caste system exists is to enable reservations (kind of like affirmative action).
And finally, caste in and of itself was something introduced by the Portuguese. The original term was Varna, and it denoted your occupation/subject matter expertise. You could change your Varna, but usually you didn't do this because the opportunity cost was pretty high in the past.
However, all Varnas were considered important, whether it was military, trade, farming, or sweeping the street. I'm sure that there was prejudice, just as many on Hacker News in First World Western countries are prejudiced towards those in the Second and Third worlds, or a stockbroker may be prejudiced against the person making his McDonald's.
I heard they hit people associated with this separatist movement in four countries within a few days, Sayaret Matkat style.