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Wilsoniumite··on [dead]
Hey I hate myself just as much as the next person, and yet, I really need someone to just read the paper or I will lose my mind.
Wilsoniumite··on The Hierarchy of Money
As someone who works at a financial institution, this is a really refreshing and concise breakdown of money and monetary systems. I think the most important thing that people should realise from reading this is that none of the things we have in our monetary systems were dreamed up for no reason, each solves a clear problem, and often was found by multiple independent groups of people at different times. I absolutely love the fact that it's essentially just layers of trust, analogous to a certificate authority or a domain name system.

And, of course, that the top level of trust is a bit arbitrary, and that "black money", of course the US Dollar, isn't worth more than trust in the US government.

Wilsoniumite··on Working on Economics with Fable 5
not really, the unconditionality is kind-of a requirement. Pay people to not work and you skew in favor of not working, pay people to work and you skew in favor of working, pay them for any other condition and, well, it's skewed, or in economic terms, distortionary. You can still have conditional benefits on top, favor working or something else a bit more if you want, but the base needs to be unconditional.
Wilsoniumite··on Working on Economics with Fable 5
It's a liiiiiiittle more than that...
Wilsoniumite··on What do we do if many people aren't working?
I mean, fair enough, but this is just me toying with the hypothetical, at no point did I say we need to do this immediately right now, but thinking ahead is just prudent, no?

One of the cool things about the system design is there are only a few numbers you need to/can set:

- UBI level

- Short Placement Level

- State index vs market requirement ratio (this is the big one, essentially "how much do we trust crisis forecasters versus what the market thinks")

- A few other small ones that don't do much.

At no point except for one thing (which I explicitly said is so hard that probs you don't do it) can you favor one company over another. At most, you can favor one industry over another, but even then that is offset by the higher level ratio.

Wilsoniumite··on What do we do if many people aren't working?
You're right, but if you imagine a world where a machine outcompetes you for every job, you have no other choice unless you just want everyone to sit around doing nothing. There's no market signals anymore to guide labor, so if you want people to work and understand their economy, you'll have to design some signals.
Wilsoniumite··on Why do we assume everyone should be working?
<3 you know what, I'm keeping it now.
Wilsoniumite··on Why do we assume everyone should be working?
Also true but that's not something I can easily show with economics.
Wilsoniumite··on OpenAI and Hugging Face address security incident during model evaluation
Why is it strange? To me, it could only be strange if one was considering that someone planned this, and then yes, it's hard to come up with anyone who would benefit from this. OpenAI looks dumb, but also their models sound impressive, Chinese models look dangerous, but also useful. No clear winner.

Thing is, I don't think anyone planned this, so to me the timing isn't strange at all. The models really were getting close to being able to have a big cybersecurity impact (I started seeing that after teams were reporting their Mythos usage), and an event like this is not so surprising, given that.

Wilsoniumite··on Who's afraid of Chinese models?
I like this article. Rings very true.

I like Anthropic, I don't think all their talk of safety is bluff and bluster, or at least, I want to believe that the people who left OpenAI because it had lost its focus of helping humanity still want that to be their main goal. However, yes, it seems that business fears are once again causing those in charge to turn "we want to help humanity" into "we are the only ones who can help humanity, and therefore we need to be the most profitable, and the only survivors".

If you want the former ideal to survive, at Anthropic and outside of it, you need to be willing to collaborate beyond profit incentives and recouping capex. Show other labs a commitment to research and community and they will follow. Better to bring teams together rather than implicitly say you distrust them, pushing them that way instead.

Wilsoniumite··on Are we offloading too much of our thinking to AI?
"What's your unique contribution to the world" is a good question, and I've been thinking about it a lot. One framing I very much like is thinking about the priceable versus unpriceable contributions of a person. As an example, your software engineering ability is priceable (it's your labor). Your value to your parents isn't priceable. The problem is, right now the default assumed value of the latter is 0. Our society only tries to put a value on priceable facets of a person. There's reasons for that, wisdom of the crowds and whatnot, but of course it also means that if an AI can do that thing, economics drives society to adopt AI over employing people.

It's possible to set that latter value to be nonzero. You can't use free markets to set it because they necessarily cannot see what price to set, so you kinda have to guess, but IMO, it isn't zero, and I'd hazard to say it's positive.

Wilsoniumite··on The room the economy can't see
They already are out! They're linked at the end of the post, but here's a link to the next one:

https://wilsoniumite.com/2026/06/19/make-work-and-sub-subsis...

Wilsoniumite··on The room the economy can't see
In my follow up pieces in the series, I detail a way to make the economy actually see a lot (not all, but way more than before) of that value. I'm pretty proud of it. It might be politically hard, but it's theoretically very sound.
Wilsoniumite··on What Happened to Me
I don't take it as a personal attack, I've wondered the same. It is definitely like a grand theory. I have a couple therapists I'm talking to.
Wilsoniumite··on Labor Is a Market Distortion, we need VAT and UBI
I have a better response now.

The ability to take leisure is still conditioned on labor. To take time off, you have to save up. To save up, you have to work. Labor is distorting the real value of leisure if the production of that leisure needs less labor (leisure time still requires you to be fed, housed, and more if you go on holiday, travel, or consume to keep yourself entertained or educated).

Wilsoniumite··on Labor Is a Market Distortion, we need VAT and UBI
I have a new version that uses US and Finnish consumption data to model the mechanisms effects.

https://wilsoniumite.com/2026/06/14/labor-pressures-causing-...

Wilsoniumite··on Labor Is a Market Distortion, we need VAT and UBI
I've changed it a bit, but yeah that's true, sorry.
Wilsoniumite··on Labor Is a Market Distortion, we need VAT and UBI
That's fair, they seem similar at first glance.

The difference is that we are asking the economy to create jobs even when it doesn't "want" to. It still will, the lump of labor fallacy is indeed a fallacy, but that doesn't mean this isn't causing a lot of harm.

We aren't draining the earth's oceans (yet) because its supply is more than the earth needs right now. One day we might, but how much we draw is decided by the economy.

But for labor supply is forced, capital flows there when it shouldn't, politics chases it. The economy, ever adaptable, provides jobs where it can.

Wilsoniumite··on Labor Is a Market Distortion, we need VAT and UBI
That's true, I think the real problem is a liiiiittle more nuanced than just the great stagnation. But that's the graph people know. The issue can be read out in more detail from other graphs too, I'm working on an updated piece. I mention georgism at the end of the piece as well.

But do you agree with the theoretical framing? People not being able to not work forces them to find something. It's like an iron ore deposit being forced to be mined rather than being mined when it's needed?

Wilsoniumite··on Labor Is a Market Distortion, we need VAT and UBI
I agree, and in some sense I argue this at the end, but I didn't want to make the piece even longer.

In fact if you look at the economics of this policy over the long term it leaks capital through rents, so it doesn't actually work forever.

A sovereign wealth fund can solve this (essentially an expansion of the "buffer" I wrote about). That functions as almost exactly what you want, giving a stake in every company to every worker (except broader, to every citizen).

If you buy the framing that labor is currently a distortion, you wouldn't want to only give stakes in companies to workers of those companies, if you do that the distortion will continue.

Wilsoniumite··on Labor Is a Market Distortion, we need VAT and UBI
Perhaps, but this is actually a both a somewhat novel framing of the problem and of the solution. If academic economists agree with this theory and subsequently get behind it, it could be like climate change.

Except this change isn't anti growth and is a lot simpler to fix than climate change. It can be bi-partisan, if framed right, we have to at least try.

Wilsoniumite··on Labor Is a Market Distortion, we need VAT and UBI
That's a very sad outlook.

This problem is hard because it's hard to spot, but the fix is actually surprisingly easy (at least in the short term).

The scale is on the order of climate change. If the academic base of economists were to unify behind this theory, change could happen. Only a few countries need to adopt this to show merit to the idea (although, that will take like a decade to truly show). Unlike climate change though this isn't fighting growth, it can recover it, and it's much, much easier to implement. That's why I think it can be truly bipartisan.

Wilsoniumite··on We Need VAT and UBI
The rich spend close to none of their wealth, but they do still, in absolute dollars, spend more than the poor per individual. This means the VAT collects more from the spending of a rich person than of someone that is poor. The full construct with a UBI is not regressive, and is actually progressively redistributive.
Wilsoniumite··on We Need VAT and UBI
This is true, but we also have monetary policy which for the longest time we have thought of as and tried to make apolitical. I would argue this is almost just monetary policy, and that's why I set this up as something that a central bank should do. It uses the word "Tax" but it really hardly is a tax.
Wilsoniumite··on We Need VAT and UBI
It's priced in, yeah. As I said in the comment and in the post, VAT on its own is not nice. The paper also states:

> Nevertheless, any VAT increases, including VAT base broadening measures that impact the poor, should be accompanied by compensation measures for poorer households, such as targeted tax credits or benefit payments.

Which is essentially what I propose through UBI, I just have broader scope.

Wilsoniumite··on We Need VAT and UBI
I know my tone was harsh, but that's mainly because I'm tired of people thinking I'm taking a side. Using VAT to fund this means that it isn't a tax on capital or on labor, that's why it's more neutral than all other methods. A wealth, profit, dividend tax, that's a tax on wealth or capital or rich people or business, whatever you prefer. An income tax is a tax on workers. VAT avoids that question.

It is slightly redistributive, yes, but really only slightly. Its hard to design it to not be redistributive, but if you really want to do that then you raise VAT and lower income taxes instead of funding a UBI. I wrote about that later in the piece.

Wilsoniumite··on We Need VAT and UBI
VAT is regressive when you consider wealth yes, but as I wrote in the piece it's both counterbalanced by the UBI, and indeed there are mechanisms by which VAT is actually progressive. This OECD paper goes into more detail [1]. The short version is: VAT on its own and in practice is regressive but only because of savings. That's pedantic, I know, but it matters for the purposes of how the VAT-UBI loop scales. In particular, it allows you to fund a larger UBI more quickly than with any other funding method.

[1] https://www.oecd.org/en/publications/reassessing-the-regress...

Wilsoniumite··on Surely the crash of the US economy has to be soon
I'm not an economist either and definitely could be wrong, but my understanding of precious metals markets has been that they are mostly driven by speculative pressures rather than demand/supply ones, unlike most other commodities, which is why I framed it that way. Much more gold and silver sits in storage than is mined or used every year, so even a significant relative shift in production/use has little effect on the price.

I have worked close to the trading floor at a financial institution, and there, precious metals are sometimes modeled more as currencies than as commodities for this reason.

It's not necessarily a rush to replace fiat, people just like the idea of a safe asset whos scarcity is secured.

Wilsoniumite··on Ask HN: Share your personal website
https://wilsoniumite.com/ - I write about things sometimes
Wilsoniumite··on What if I don't want videos of my hobby time available to the world?
I agree a lot with the sentiments here and I think people who want to avoid being filmed should have that right. But, as someone who doesn't mind (and is younger) I suppose I could share my rationalizion for it (as flawed as it may be)

One often mentioned reason is the fear that in some way your likeness will end up in something significant, or viral. That makes sense, it's the most invasive and significant violation. We "risk becoming the side character in someone else's parasocial relationship" as another commentator mentioned. I myself wouldn't want that either, but I derive some comfort from one main observation: virality doesn't scale. A lot of the worries come from the fact that "everyone is filming now", "everything is shared now". That's true, but the likelihood of any of this ever becoming popular or even seen goes down as the volume goes up. That alone is enough for me to not be that worried, at least not by the increased prevalence of public filming/photography.

On the other hand, this does nothing to limit the effect of data harvesting and government espionage, a real worry I might have.

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