QuadmasterXLII

stretching the cigarette metaphor, there is the (apocryphal?) phenomenon of opiate addicts flocking to the dealer who most recently overdosed someone. Boasting implies liability but not falsehood or safety.

further theoretical: this has happened repeatedly for months

Well shit! That’s awful, I hope the hn post gets you support where emailing didn’t

clarification: your credit card or company’s card now has $78,000 of charges on it?

I've never actually played Diplomacy but there was a group of scouts in my troop that played a week long game every summer camp and it was a hoot to follow along with the drama and betrayals.

And crucially, “rent it for 10 bucks” and “rent it for 20 bucks” are different uses such that the LVT can’t change which is optimal

That’s one of the ideas of LVT actually: building apartments in land doesn’t increase tax burden, burning the apartments doesn’t lower it

I buy this as a defense for the first couple hacks but at the point that the last six times they hit enter it hacked some random website and they hit enter a seventh time?

'I', presumably

narrowly scoped laws limit the blast radius of a stupid law without the political price of opposing a law in the aftermath of a disaster that law would have prevented. imagine if they had banned commodities trading in general!

When maliciously convincing a person of a point, a huge fraction of the effort in every sentence goes into convincing the mark to listen to the next sentence. Individuals certainly can walk away at any point, but populations do and don't respond to tricks in this direction, and any engagement tricks that work generalize to any point of contention. Lots of avenues to this, from scientology's fortune telling to timeshare's trapped presentations. RL on engagement was the first billion dollar use of deep reinforcement learning!

Would you like to hear more examples of humans using these techniques?

Growing up, actual peak existence was visiting Grandma's house and playing with my mom's old toys. The seemingly unlimited, completely novel hoard from another time. My son feels similarly about visiting my parents' house and playing with my old toys. This may or may not be sustainable but it seems like it is well on its way with four generations involved- from where I stand, keeping a good pile of consumerism around to pay it forward in 20 years doesn't seem out of proportion with the joy I've received. It's definitely a culture thing- nobody in my family tree seems to move much, and has decent taste in throwing out the actual trash and keeping stuff stored nicely over the long time gaps, then not being fussy about the next generation being pretty hard on stuff (within reason, as appropriate for their age)

No proof verifier verifies all valid proofs and terminates on all invalid proofs.

(actually I am wrong. You would introduce a new proof, and then step the verifier on all ongoing proofs, so non-termination isn't a driving concern)

Pretty well everyone who still posts on X is deep fried, smart or dumb. Some of them can tell but can't stop (Nate silver, one of the greens, Zvi) and some seem unaware.

“ Coxon himself likely has these fears because he has heard them from someone else”

Or, maybe, he’s considered the arguments on the object level, an activity OP participates in to a depth not exceeding “Robots are pretty hard to make right now”

Scandal as fraternity discovers 2/3rds of pledges were cheating by paying TaskRabbit temp workers to drink and dance in their stead, while the pledges stayed home and doomscrolled.

its clocktower syndrome. they are fucked in the head and can beg us to stop them but cant stop themselves

if meatspace stays hard, we are fine.

Right now, if you want to pay money to a stranger on the internet, and have them draw you a high effort picture using a pencil, this is hard. Recently this was easy.

Instead, what is extremely likely is that you will pay more than the cost of tokens, and get back AI generation. You won't make this mistake more than a few times before you stop trying.

This leads to impoverishment once we get to a point where employing a human to do anything is hard- try to get your sink fixed, exercise your moral principles to pay extra for a human plumber ($100 bucks! The robot plumbing service only charges 99c!), human shows up with a robot and doomscrolls on your porch while the robot does the work. Times are tough and you don't have that much money to waste on bullshit like this. Next time you just hire the robot.

This leads to extinction once paying UBI to a human is hard because robots are much better at applying for UBI than humans.

It is actually pretty nice that now we can spin up an isolated copy of our whole system with one command line call- this was mandatory for letting agents run wild trying things, but mostly now it makes manual development and onboarding easier.

Every four months or so we try getting hyped on agents for ~ a week. Up to this point the answer has always been a pretty solid "nope this sucks back to manual code." The agentically coded parts of the codebase that came from these trials are palpably more annoying than the rest. However, the current trial is going better than the last ones have (Fable 5.1 really is astonishing). On the other hand, each other trial started with a honeymoon so it's up in the air.

This is a good FYI. I guess my microsoft trauma is showing.

If one of the researchers forgot to check "don't train on this" a single time, the pretrain is going to know what they were working on. The question of whether they remembered to check "don't train on this" every single time is super concrete, and embarrassing to _both_ sides if the answer is "no, he didn't read the eula."

These models will absolutely remember a brilliant insight that appeared a single time in the pretrain corpus, because if they couldn't-- they would get a slightly worse loss. I don't know what this wishy-washing "well maybe we trained on it but we didn't read it" is supposed to mean.

(Example of Fable knowing the content of a deeply unimportant LessWrong post I wrote: https://claude.ai/share/a907b46c-bf7b-4fca-9c71-8582cf8507cc a working Navier Stokes solution would be way more salient)

How much rote memorization did it take to harm you? the addition of 1 digit numbers is kind of mandatory to function in everyday life, the multiplication table is at most (8*9)/2 36 facts.

Whatever the reason, it seems specific to the intersection of space and telescope. Space probes, landers, and crewed vehicles all get made in multiples, as well as ground based telescopes like Keck or the gravitational wave observatories.

but that can just be executable heap?

LLMs are a magic machine to turn commons into tragedies.

"I am against these tools generally. I use them myself" would be a more interesting take

Ok! I had parsed your comment wrong. I see now that you claimed that python and go projects always had at least one dependency, and that go and rust projects had similar dependency counts, but you were not claiming that python and rust had similar dependency counts. Thanks for clarifying, with that I agree my comment was not a good counterexample.

If a python example doesn't count, why were your two example languages python and go?

But yeah, small number of large dependencies is the way to go.