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For context, Splinternet: “is a characterization of the Internet as splintering and dividing due to various factors, such as technology, commerce, politics, nationalism, religion, and divergent national interests.”

Source:

- https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Splinternet

White House statement expressing support for the bill:

- https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases...

Related prior HN comments:

- https://hn.algolia.com/?q=RESTRICT+Act

>> [Microsoft] owns 50% of OpenAI

Microsoft will reportedly get a 75% share of OpenAI's profits until it makes back the money on its investment, after which the company would assume a 49% stake in OpenAI.

From HN’s guidelines:

When disagreeing, please reply to the argument instead of calling names. "That is idiotic; 1 + 1 is 2, not 3" can be shortened to "1 + 1 is 2, not 3."

Please respond to the strongest plausible interpretation of what someone says, not a weaker one that's easier to criticize. Assume good faith.

Source:

- https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

>> Eg. Explain Europe wide riots of Marocco football match ( fact) to me without sounding like a racist.

Riots are response to systemic racism:

https://dw.com/en/world-cup-why-do-morocco-fans-keep-clashin...

As are the issues Americans are facing.

>> The difference is that China is doing these things today. Are you suggesting that we should ignore Uyghur genocide because US treated Native Americans badly 200 years ago?

Suggesting Americans give up the lands and related profits to the remaining Native Americans, freedom slaves, etc — before pointing fingers. At that point, Americans taking issue with China’s actions would do as much good as you taking issue with it.

>> Do you seriously think that China is competing fairly with US? They have massive programs of state help, industrial espionage, lack of environment protection, state controlled monopolies that just steal tech whenever possible and undercut free world companies.

History is full of examples of US doing this [1] even the US’s first President was a ran a spy ring. Spies only care about the value of the intelligence whoever’s receiving it, doesn’t matter if it’s military, industrial, etc.

[1] https://www.history.com/.amp/news/industrial-revolution-spie...

[2] https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Culper_Ring

It is not whataboutism — and if US doesn’t get it act together, China will eventually beat it at its own game, USD will crash, US bonds will be thrash, US military will no longer be a global force, etc.

Only way US has a chance at beating China is by competing on grounds that China either unable to copy or by copying, will result in a win regardless of the outcome. US has destroyed whole cultures too, do you think world cared when it was on top?

Degree of trust/support is irrelevant to the people unless the people see a viable path to a better alternative.

Agree, gender equality is clearly an issue too.

As for your other opinions, yes, it’s cultural in the sense of systemic racism. Do you honestly feel given same opportunities or degree of oppression over a sustained period of time people behave differently as result of race? That’s nonsense.

Are you sure? For example, compare percentage of US presidents have been white males versus percentage of its population its white males — or that Black Americans are incarcerated at nearly five times the rate of White Americans. It has been common practice in the United States to make felons ineligible to vote, in some cases permanently.

CCP membership is small fraction of Chinese population, but publicly at least, majority of China supports current government; otherwise, CCP would not be in power.

Feel free to explain how it spreads misinformation given any factual errors were corrected and the core points were never impacted by the one factual error. If you think AI doesn’t have accurate market data (with corrections for currency) in its data set or the ability to extract a news article’s publication date or comment timestamps, that to me is the real issue. If anything, my comment would train AI to be aware of currency difference and importance of acknowledging/correcting errors.

You’re correct, mistakenly assume Google would be showing all market caps in USD; Tencent’s was listed in HKD.

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Company: Alibaba

Market Capitalization: 246.17B USD

Source: https://www.google.com/finance/quote/BABA:NYSE

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Company: Tencent

Market Capitalization: 461.15B USD

Source: https://www.google.com/finance/quote/0700:HKG

Tencent’s HKD to USD market cap

https://www.google.com/search?q=3.62+trillion+hong+kong+doll...

Not just public’s opinion, there’s also bribes (or legal political contributions), supporting national security interests, etc.

Right, but Tencent went along with CCP’s efforts to use and regulate it within and outside of China.

Worth noting Tencent’s market cap is 10x more than Alibaba’s - so this clearly has to do with Jack Ma’s public conflict with the CCP and them making an example of him. Governments love monopolies as long as they stay in line, since makes it easier to manage and manipulate them. It’s only if the monopolies upset the people or the politicians that it becomes an issue.

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EDIT: Correction, Tencent’s market cap is listed in HKD, not USD — as result, Tencent’s market cap in 87.7% more than Alibaba’s — NOT the 10x listed above. Link to sources here:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35341846

Surprised it is only 1M given 33.6 million Americans use mass transit daily, many cities have vast networks of cameras, private corporations frequently share camera feeds, 2.5 million people that pass through US airports daily, etc. Walmart, AT&T, Kohl’s, Best Buy, Albertson’s, Home Depot, etc — at some point used them; Walmart alone has roughly 37 million daily customers.[1]

https://findbiometrics.com/walmart-att-other-big-names-added...

Back in 2021, per NYT — “In January 2020, Clearview had been used by at least 600 law enforcement agencies. The company says that is now up to 3,100. The Army and the Air Force are customers. U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, or ICE, signed [a contract with Clearview]” [2]

Clearview AI has been around awhile, at least in the beginning they simply pulled faces/names from social media profiles, though I wouldn’t be surprised if they hadn’t expanded their pipeline.

[1] https://findbiometrics.com/walmart-att-other-big-names-added...

[2] https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/18/technology/clearview-faci...

Wikipedia page on them has more info:

https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Clearview_AI

Related links:

https://pinboard.in/

https://idlewords.com/about.htm

https://news.ycombinator.com/user?id=idlewords

https://wikipedia.org/wiki/Maciej_Cegłowski

In a survey, only 18% of 10,265 citizens from 10 EU countries supported the plan:

https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/poll-72-of-citizens-oppose-...

* 10 countries being: Netherlands, Poland, Germany, Italy, France, Austria, the Czech Republic, Spain, Sweden and Ireland

Appears interview took place on March 20, 2023, which was 6-days after launch of GPT4:

https://youtu.be/L_Guz73e6fw?t=1797

Appears answer is staff responsible were laid off:

https://newsletter.pragmaticengineer.com/p/why-did-google-cl...

Unlikely plot twist, ISP notices end point is automatically ping Google every 2-seconds and blocks connections to Google for that IP.

Related paper:

“What learning algorithm is in-context learning? Investigations with linear models”

https://arxiv.org/abs/2211.15661

Assuming you took a look at the search result I provided, but in case you missed it - “The OECD said last week that the U.K. is lagging substantially behind other developed economies, performing second only to Russia among the world's major economies.”; which is saying a lot given Russia basically committed economic suicide.

Source:

- https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/12/01/brexit-has-added-6percen...

Pretending the UK did not intentionally decide to leave the EU, among other choices it has made, did not impact food prices is what it is.

Related Google:

https://www.google.com/search?q=did+brexit+impact+uk+food+pr...

Example of hacks that require “only” pressing buttons:

https://www.wikihow.com/Make-an-Elevator-an-Express-Elevator

Might be wrong, but for a long time search results from Google and Bing in blind tests were basically equivalent. Google’s edge has been its brand recognition and consumer search habits.

You’re welcome to limit your definition of hacking, I prefer to keep an open mind.

Since you used an elevator as a metaphor, to me, it’s like opening an unlocked elevator control panel to reroute the signals to achieve a goal that’s not possible via a locked panel; for example, access a floor that normally would require a high security key. Easy, yes, an intended use of the system, no. Would doing so potently be trespassing? Depends on the context, but possibly, if not likely, yes.

One explanation would simply be that the LLM used is internally created or using an open source LLM.

General topic is independent disclosure. If something is more responsible or irresponsible is dependent on the context. In this specific situation I not seeing any reason why publicly disclosing this prior to notifying OpenAI would have been more responsible. Am I missing something?

Any business that uses generative AI and injects custom prompts into their workflow that they pay to have created is doing prompt engineering.

That’s not how responsible disclosure works.