NeverBehave

Previous HN discussion of TCP-Brutal v1 (2023): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38164574

Site appears unavailable for months with no clear status updates. Context: https://github.com/orgs/community/discussions/141424

self note: realize this when I login to the website to check my bill and now there is always an orange bar saying I am using unsupported browser, and a pop up every time I open the website.

The bigger problem I think is I cannot dismiss the bar. Of course I can use adblocker element match to block it but it is a hostile move imo.

Here is the opinion from the author, unfortunately it only has Chinese version but here is the relevant part translated using deepl:

> And if you insist on sending packets, even though the other traffic does not give way, since your packets are taken more proportion of the traffic, they would more likely to be selected. Whether it's "ethical" to "grab" bandwidth in this way is a subjective question, but the objective root cause is the urgent need to expand the operator's equipment with insufficient bandwidth. Operators should not expect users to be "sympathetic" to the lack of backbone capacity - the operator has contracted a rate with the user and the user is not cracking that limit, just using the bandwidth that the operator has committed to them, which is reasonable behavior.

Personally I don't think it is a good idea, but I was in that situation during my high school, and it was terrible. I get the idea why this project would exist sooner or later and just trying to present some context for discussion.

https://v2.hysteria.network/zh/docs/misc/Hysteria-Brutal/

That's actually part of the situation in China --- degraded network situation to certain part of the Internet. You may be able to establish connections e.g. Github, and even okay to download release from S3, but usually speed is stable around 2-3kb/s, which is effectively useless.

I am not certain this is due to the censorship, but this issue is sitting there for at least a decade.

Big Corps in China usually setup their own VPN/Private Line to workaround this situation.

It is intentionally used on WAN. Brutal part of Hysteria(https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38026756) internal components, and Hysteria is a proxy made for people in China under censorship, where outbound Internet access is heavily degraded.