NathanNgata

> It also grows the intellectual souls

maybe only a byproduct, it's more of a means to an end system. people are at the universities they are in because going to college still means something to the job market as opposed to learning everything else where. The people who really grow there 'intellectual souls' are those who would grow it regardless of environment/circumstance.

while I do believe it is a great thing for people to desire to advance themselves intellectually I don't believe it should cost as much as it does. It's ridiculous.

> If a person is smart enough to receive it + many aren’t smart enough for it

the benefits of becoming educated in its most fundamental sense don't vary with intellectual ability.

the way educational institutions are currently structured is one of many ways of educating people, so the question becomes whether that way of educating is optimal for an individual.

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universities should be purely for the pursuit of knowledge and shouldn't be there to provide relevancy to the job market. That should be the job of systems specializing in providing pathways to certain job market sectors.

currently universities conflate the two which has lead to most of the problems they have been ascribed with today

> First we should stop repeating that the private education system is better than the public education system.

I look to the private sector because I wondering if perhaps something could be done easier in it rather than in the public ed sector. Education in the US runs on federalism so every state does things differently trying to innovate is hard because it's a bureaucracy that isn't wholly consistent even within states.

> For what a good education system looks like, one should look at the Scandinavian countries, more specifically Finland

Comparing success in Finland or other Scandinavian countries isn't fair, those countries have populations not even larger than some of the cities here in the U.S. Ranking U.S states by population Finland wouldn't even break top 20. What works for them doesn't directly translate to working for us.

> If the system does not recruit the best and then not provide them with the prestige in the society then the system erodes over time.

But I do strongly agree with getting the best teachers possible by making the pool more competitive and not somewhere those who couldn't do anything more with their life go.

You'd solve this also by just paying teachers more obviously because you'd start competing with professions with people who have a greater potential to be great teachers. Paying teachers more though is obviously really hard in p.ed. because it be Tax payers money and people have drastically different views on where there money should be going and if any should be directed toward teachers.

I'm not trying to say that the big solution is completely move Education into the private sector I'm just saying that possibly the most optimal solution doesn't fully exist in public ed.