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MrPatan··on Get The TLDR Of Any YouTube Video
> If you stop watching videos, there will be no reason to make the videos.

Deal!

MrPatan··on A US Bill Would Ban Kids Under 13 from Joining Social Media
Social pressure from a local group is one thing. From a global group, selected by algorithm for unknown reasons, another thing entirely.
MrPatan··on A US Bill Would Ban Kids Under 13 from Joining Social Media
How is parental education going for "don't do drugs" or "don't commit crimes"?
MrPatan··on After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case
Puberty blockers are risky and can have non-reversible consequences. Your wishing them not to doesn't change that fact.

Plus, on top of the medical risks, starting on puberty blockers will make confused kids who didn't need them more likely to get surgeries later. That's bad, and yes, it's a trade off between not unnecessarily medicalizing confused kids and "helping" "real dysphoria" cases earlier. And I'm telling you very clearly that the answer depends on how many there are of those, but you don't want to engage with the question. Because there just aren't that many "real dysphoria" cases.

And let me preempt your next bad argument: No, a doctor can't tell them apart. That's where we are now, and they get a "dysphoria stamp" after a visit. The incentives are not aligned, they just want the money.

The goal posts have always been firmly on "Don't mess with children". I've told you many times, nobody cares what adults do, sex change surgeries have been around for a long time and nobody cares. Nobody wants to ban them on adults.

But don't mess with kids.

MrPatan··on After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case
You keep conflating adults with children.

It's not the same. Nobody cares what adults do. They do have agency over their own life and I defend their freedom to fuck themselves up in the most creative way they can think up.

But don't go after children. There is a reason they can't legally consent to many things. It's too easy to manipulate children to make really bad decisions they later regret, so at least lets not make irreversible damage.

Sorry, but no. I'm torn between hoping you'll understand once you have children of your own, or hoping you never, ever go anywhere near any child.

MrPatan··on After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case
> Irrespective of the source of the dysphoria, it exists

No! What you have here is a bunch of confused girls that will do whatever tiktok influencers tell them to do. Do nothing and it'll pass in 99.99% of the cases. Start blocking puberties and you end up with a lot of unnecessary surgeries and sterile people who will suffer the rest of their lives.

How many people temporally confused by social contagion are you willing to sacrifice for each "real case" that you catch earlier? Where's your line? Ten, a hundred? A thousand? All of them?

You don't want to engage with the question, I get it, but it's the whole point here.

> Irrelevant, as if they later get surgery it is because they, once they are mature enough to decide, determine that it is the best outcome for them

Yeah, because the sunk cost fallacy develops only after puberty, or what? No. As you very well know, once they start on that road the identity kicks in and it's "who they are now". Which is exactly what you want, a normal person comes in, an activist for life comes out. Who cares about the actual person, right?

MrPatan··on After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case
You're damn right children can't consent to anything! That is exactly the point! Which is why the parents are the ones in charge, and why it's alarming that for irreversible sterilizing and life-altering procedures they're trying to remove the parents.

It's insane, as you very well put it. They can't get a tattoo, too permanent, but they can get their tits chopped off. Makes total sense, yeah.

MrPatan··on After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case
Puberty blockers themselves are not free of risk of irreversible damage, as you very well know.

And if you had to bet money, if I told you some kid started on puberty blockers, what would be the odds they later got surgery or further irreversible damage done? Higher or lower than if they didn't start on puberty blockers, as they did 10 years ago?

If I'm right and social contagion is much more prevalent than "real dysphoria", that is a very relevant point, and makes fighting against the contagion the right thing to do, not dishing out puberty blockers like candy.

Now, you can tell me that you believe there is little social contagion and we'll have to agree to disagree, but don't try to twist your way into roiding kids up, it doesn't make sense. And you know it.

MrPatan··on After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case
Let me spell it out, maybe it helps somebody else:

- "Communists" is shorthand for "envious losers who'd rather destroy society than improve themselves". "Elite overproduction" is what you want to google. I just think "communist" has a more, idk, "classic" ring to it.

Now, you can argue whether we have an "envious loser" problem or not, and how big their influence is, and if it's too late to do anything at all, or all is lost already.

Or you can pull out the dictionary.

MrPatan··on After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case
If I believed all those dysphoria cases were real and not social contagion I would. But I don't, so I don't.
MrPatan··on After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case
> Social media told you to be angry about people that’ve been around forever. You chose to only pay attention recently and get angry.

Again, no. It's only when they started telling children it was a good idea to sterilize themselves. Just don't do irreversible damage to children, it's that easy. Find other shibboleths to identify good communists that don't involve chopping bits off kids.

MrPatan··on After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case
Nope. What's you explanation then for why literally nobody cared about adult trans people just a few years ago?

The difference with the others is that you can stop liking dumb edgy stuff when you grow up, but you can't grow new tits.

As for the financial agenda... yeah, exactly. Just follow the money. What did you find?

MrPatan··on After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case
No. It's all about children. Nobody cares what adults do between themselves. Nopbody did, nobody does. Read all those "panic" stories again. It's about the children. Leave them alone.
MrPatan··on After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case
Illegal to do it for children.

Nobody had or has any problem with what consenting adults do.

MrPatan··on After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case
There was no problem anywhere in the world until they came for the children.
MrPatan··on After 30 years, a father is exonerated in 'Satanic panic' case
They are a type of procedure with irreversible life-altering consequences that somehow you think children can consent to.
MrPatan··on EVE Online player uses obscure rule to pull off biggest heist in game history
The players
MrPatan··on Generative Agents: Interactive Simulacra of Human Behavior
It's about to get weird. How do I get investment exposure to the Amish?
MrPatan··on Ideas That Changed My Life
> In business and life, instrumental rationality is much more useful and works more of the time (this is why the LessWrong crowd isn’t good at stochastic domains like business because their models, though logical, are insufficient.

One of the ideas that helped me there comes actually from them: "Rationality wins". Which is the old: "If you're so smart why aren't you rich?".

Not easy to apply for anybody, it's much easier to be a smart loser.

MrPatan··on I’m a doctor: Here’s what I found when I asked ChatGPT to diagnose my patients
One complaint he has is "It doesn't know to ask the right questions".

Well, the prompt was to give diagnoses, not questions. Ask GPT for the follow up questions first, then the diagnoses.

This is fascinating in that, because now the machine speaks human, we subconsciously ascribe human agency to it. This guy was instictively treating it like a colleague, who would naturally ask follow up questions unprompted. But you still have to prompt the machine properly.

So, 50% diagnosis success rate for the wrong prompt, for a LLM that can still grow, for a model that is not specialsed in medicine? In the literal first month of the "AI age"? Doctors are so done.

MrPatan··on I’m a doctor: Here’s what I found when I asked ChatGPT to diagnose my patients
What percent of human doctors diagnoses is also well-decribed bullshit, though?
MrPatan··on China plans to ban exports of rare earth magnet tech
Now do Russia and Ukraine
MrPatan··on You might not need an effect
The article you link says that a component will rerender when its parent rerenders or state changes. It doesn't say anything about the props changing.

If you read this sentence "In normal rendering, React does not care whether "props changed" - it will render child components unconditionally just because the parent rendered!"

and understood that react doesn't re-render a component when its props change, well, I read that sentence in a different way.

MrPatan··on For the first time, renewable energy generation beat out coal in the US
Ukrainians think it's hilarious, yes.
MrPatan··on EU Commission doesn't understand what's written in its own chat control bill
Of course not, "peaceful" is reserved for burning buildings and cars.
MrPatan··on Call yourself titles
"Lying to ourselves" is arguably one of the main functions of our brains, and one of the reasons we ended up with such big brains at all.

Who would object to using this built-in capability for positive purposes for once? Baffling.

Remember, it's not a lie if you believe it

MrPatan··on You might not need an effect
What do you mean? When props change the component re-renders, doesn't it?
MrPatan··on You might not need an effect
Indeed. React was a welcome innovation because it enabled V=f(S). That's it.

The vDom was fast enough that it made re-rendering your view on every state change possible.

Now you don't have to worry about rendering, you describe your components as pure functions and you're done with that side of things, now you "only" have to worry about the state of your app.

Seeing comments here wondering "How am I supposed to use jQuery with React otherwise?" is baffling and disheartening.

MrPatan··on You might not need an effect
Never left
MrPatan··on You might not need an effect
Yes
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