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MoonHarvest··on What your first-grade life says about the rest of it
What about incredibly rich socialites who don't work and yet thrive off of their parents' money?

What about people in upper-middle-class office jobs who spend the vast majority of every day in their office browsing Reddit?

What about people who do work, but who go into their workplace with a terrible attitude and end up failing to provide the service customers pay for?

These are three types of people that you can also observe, if you look hard enough, and they are not always destitute. They also (arguably) don't work - just having a job or money in the bank doesn't mean you contribute your fair share to society. Granted these observations alone, which are just as hard to quantify as the Krugman quote above, it's hard to say that the war on drugs (or the war to put poor people into prison, whichever name you prefer) does not exploit lower-class people. If there are always people who don't work as much as others would like them to, there's nothing theoretically different about people born into different social strata.

So, the Krugman quote above is almost reprehensible, and I also don't believe it's backed by data. For instance, a full-time federal minimum wage worker makes $15,080 a year. This is enough to live above the poverty line if you only support yourself, but not even close to enough to support a spouse and even one child (http://poverty.ucdavis.edu/faq/what-are-annual-earnings-full...). How can you possibly say that people who try and support their families on a minimum wage salary are mostly lazy bums who don't work?

I would like to see how Krugman backs up his argument. Data is always welcome.

MoonHarvest··on What your first-grade life says about the rest of it
This is by far the best article I've read about this study. Thank you for sharing.

What most interested me was this quote about white children. "These children did not inherit college expectations. But they inherited job networks." I can verify this phenomenon using anecdotal evidence, where poor white children are expected to learn their parents' (generally their father's) crafts but not expected to learn anything beyond that.

While my own college-educated parents passed down their respect and appreciation for learning to me, I saw some of my childhood friends' parents pass down their mistrust and apathy towards learning to my friends. I was not surprised when I came back from college one spring break and learned that one of my old friends (white, poor, no college, terrible home life) was currently on the lam for killing a teenager over a drug deal. I was shocked by the fact that I wasn't at all surprised.

What bothers me more is how I can't relate to how hard life must be for this old friend, and especially how hard it is for primarily black children who inherit little but discrimination, through anything but anecdotes. I think this is more "friend guilt" than "white guilt." No one wants to see people they care for, or once cared for, victimized by systems beyond their control.

Therefore, based again on my own anecdotal evidence, I'm glad this study continues to receive attention.