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Which is weird because writing this comment made me go glance at /. and it's sad what it ultimately became.

egui is, however, one of the most reliable paths in Rust today for building and shipping a desktop app.

The comment is about how everyone in their videos does it. The over-use of it is the issue, like when you say a word too much and your brain stops understanding what it means.

If you didn’t notice it before, you’ll definitely notice it now.

No shit. I'm arguing that we should be held to similar higher standards.

Software developers should not ossify. Nowhere have I said that LLMs as a tool - used by those in this profession! - should be shunned. I was pointing out that people being totally okay with those outside our profession, those without the necessary skillsets, directly doing our work not only devalues our work.

I have not said it's specific to their field. I've just been specifically commenting on that field.

(The lack of solidarity is perhaps specific to the field)

I do care, it's why I commented what I commented. ;P

I already acknowledged that "caste" is an incorrect word choice and I could've done better there, but my core point remains unchanged.

Yes, I agree. We are, however, on a site and in a thread that is dedicated to the role of software engineering, so I don't really care about the wider discussion at the moment.

My sole input here is that software engineering has not protected itself as a field, and it will now pay the price for that.

It's not meant to be taken negatively, and is purely a term that I was choosing to represent "hey, you all need to consider better coordinating/representing/holding the line as a group".

If you consider a union to be a "bad thing" then we are likely going to talk past each other for eternity.

This was part of the implication of my point, yes.

> No idea what you mean by class solidarity. There are only two; the capital owning class, and then everyone else (the working class). Most devs are working class just like everyone else.

Yes, albeit a highly compensated portion of the working class. Software engineers should protect their own field a bit more.

> Unless you're proposing that software should be gatekept to the level of other engineering disciplines?

I do not like or want to use the term "gatekeeping" here, but yes, I think that software engineering should be held to a higher standard. You can't have it both ways.

> I’m pointing out what I believe to be ridiculous gatekeeping.

I am not gatekeeping. I am stating that we collectively exist in a professional caste and that will go away or lose influence if you let it do so. Other professional castes do this exact same brain exercise and that is why they have protections in place.

> Some people try to cling to their specializations and cry “class warfare” when threatened.

I'll be blunt and just state that I am post money and not remotely threatened by this stuff anymore. I am observing that software engineering as a profession is blindly giving away a ridiculous amount of leverage in the world - in the form of dollars and influence, the value of their labor - and more crucially doing it to themselves.

I will be fine whichever way this shakes out, and I don't really have a dog in this fight short of having spent decent time in the OSS space and finding it sad what it is turning in to.

It is hard for me to imagine another engineering discipline that would be totally fine accepting work from those who don't have the actual engineering background required to do the work.

If I had to push this take to the extreme: software engineers never learned class solidarity and it's now biting the industry in the ass.

Nobody needs more than 134hp on the street with instant torque, and nobody needs more than 125 miles of range around town. The driving dynamic of the car is better than any modern EV. That's the entire point.

Nobody, and I mean nobody, is looking at owning a Ferrari for “efficiency”. They are similar to Porsche where you’re looking for a driving feel, or for the badge.

Ferrari releasing this feels like saying “our ethos does not matter”. This thing should’ve been a sports car through and through, efficiency be damned.

It’s literally the MK7 Golf R, but with AWD removed and a battery instead of an engine. Physical interior throughout with CarPlay/AA, all aftermarket parts for the MK7 work with it. Drives like a go-kart on the streets.

Super fun as a second or third grocery getter if you can find one in good condition and with the right option sets.

It is not a hot take. I lived in Japan for quite some number of years and I'm back there regularly for work and to see friends. I know what I am talking about.

You live in Tokyo, you know damn well that you can receive silent judgement for being "that guy" who mostly eats at the conbini.

> But if you compare them with convenience store meals available elsewhere in the world (especially in the broadly understood West), they still _are_ pretty damn special.

What part of my original comment flew over your head? We said the same thing.

They are not that special when judged on merit.

I cannot imagine having untold amounts of money only to do nothing afterwards except consume the stuff put in front of you.