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I'm a materialist and it's not that I think there's something magical about biological wetware but your refusal to acknowledge the manifest differences between a bird and an airplane ("they both fly! what's the practical difference!?") marks you as an unserious thinker on this subject.

You might start here https://aeon.co/essays/your-brain-does-not-process-informati...

I don't know what to tell you, but there simply are huge differences between a living animal with innate drives to survive, eat, mate and a pile of code on a server that does nothing until you run it. Running your bot locked in a `while True:` loop won't change that.

It sounds like you're describing compilers?

We all agree the demons are cool and potentially dangerous. Chainsaws are pretty sick too.

Despite continuously waving their hands and shrieking about how this thing will literally wipe out all of humanity they couldn't be bothered to airgap it from the internet when testing.

So yes, I think it was equivalent to testing their new rocket by launching it over a population center. oops, we didn't intend for it to crash on that preschool, but we also didn't follow the most basic safety protocol imaginable

If I run a port scanner / vulnerability fuzzer pointed at your network that churns for days and eventually cracks something and breaks your system, would you be upset with me, or my bash loops?

What if you tried to sue me for damages and my defense was, "Your honor, this was a highly advanced AI gone rogue, I couldn't possibly be held negligent, no one could have foreseen this - I accidentally summoned dark magiks from the silicon itself!"

Note the point I'm making: I am not claiming LLMs are equivalent to a for loop, I'm saying that you can't evade moral and legal responsibility through technical obscurantism.

A bomb wired to a sufficiently-complex RNG is still a bomb.

Fairly often. One idea I've been kicking around is to try and port UCLA's "digital reconstruction" of the White City to a modern game engine: https://idre.ucla.edu/wce

> A spymark is a hidden signal that makes your work traceable without your knowledge or consent.

It's not "your work" it's the bloody AI's work! That's the whole point.

Some capitalist enterprises produce valuable goods or services as a byproduct of making money, BTC cuts out those extra steps, efficiently producing pure waste heat.

There's obvious synergy here to build a self-sustaining ecosystem-annihilator:

    10 Burn AI tokens to develop cryptocurrencies
    20 Burn down the rain forest to calculate sha256 faster
    30 Sell sha256 hashes to finance AI buildout
    40 GOTO 10

Excuse me? Is this thing supposed to be a borderline SGI or not? We already know LLMs are good at spitting out code.

Being you is (presumably) like something: it's nice being you, it's miserable being you, it's exhausting being you, it's invigorating being you... whatever it is like, I can't describe it but you experience it.

You have a subjective internal experience. A thermostat does not. An LLM presumably does not. A dog or a bat [0] presumably does.

[0] https://ia800100.us.archive.org/5/items/thomas-nagel-what-is...

I had Gemini read this article and write its summary to /dev/null

It's underperformed the S&P500 over the last 5 years, but you know what they say about past performance not predicting future returns. Maybe AI will unlock an untapped reservoir of ever-greater fools.

OpenAI pushing ads seems like a big fat blinking SELL warning to me.

They claim they are close to creating a Machine God that threatens all human life... but this is the best business plan it can come up with?

Maybe your omnipotent machine could come up with that cure for cancer you keep saying it will, and then you sell that? Or design an innovative new battery? Or, hell, let's be more realistic: Why can't it make really fun iOS games that you can sell? Or generate Marvel quality blockbusters, that should bring in at least a few billion.

The dream was that you could separate content from presentation and content could be adapted and reinterpreted by anyone using whatever tools they choose: User Agents that actually respected the users' vision, not the publishers'.

>...data arrives as a CSV in which every token is encrypted with your backup password...

It's not quick, but you can submit a GDPR/Subject Access Request to Twilio and after a month or two they will send you all your Authy TOTP seeds.

Then you can import them into Aegis or some other FLOSS solution: https://github.com/uiltondutra/authy-migrate

I mean...

https://www.wsj.com/tech/ai/jury-sides-with-openai-sam-altma...

I have no inside information, but I always assume the tickboxes that "disable ____ data" from Google/Facebook/OpenAI just disconnects it from your own account, not hides it from the provider.

Wait, so I can have free movies and subvert the adtech business model at the same time? What's the catch?

Absolutely, and real professions with real professional ethical standards have considered such questions[0] and taken informed positions on them. Nothing of the kind exists for programmers.

[0] https://journalofethics.ama-assn.org/article/ama-code-medica...

Nothing that you say is responsive to my point. None of your so-called engineers at Tesla has ever said, "I'm sorry Mr. Musk, we won't deploy those features because it's against the Software Engineering Code to do beta-testing on live vehicles where it harms users and endangers members of the public. You can fire us, but you'll get the same answer from the next engineer you call into this office."

yeah yeah yeah. I agree that AI is and will be a very useful tool, it's just not going to be worth $30T like OpenAI/Anthropic are pretending.

I'd wager a fair chunk of my money that money breaks OpenAI before OpenAI breaks money.

How long until we find out that some AI has quietly buried an exploit in Lean to cheat at proofs?

This is exactly the problem: Software developers are not a professional class, we are hired goons with no professional organization nor a code of professional ethics.

This is one of my personal bugbears. I keep making this point on HN but devs want to LARP as professionals so they usually don't want to hear that they have more in common with retail workers than they do with carpenters, engineers, or accountants.

Previously:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47625159

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48932441

"Compute" is not one generic commodity. Filling your datacentres with ASICs that do nothing but compute SHA256 for Bitcoin mining was a smart move in 2015 but today that hardware is worthless e-waste.

What does the depreciation curve look like for nvidia cards purchased today? How long will it take to recoup the investment on this buildout? Will those datacenters pay for themselves before they're scrapped?

No, I think AI models will be cheap commodities available from hundreds of providers for a few dollars, like a Linux VM is today.