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Boris's response here is the right move though. Acknowledging the miss and committing to a fix in the next release is how you build trust with a dev audience.
Lolicon is child sexual abuse material.
I believe the association with THORN and INHOPE are great steps, but I can see that they have not had much affect on the rising number of reports and allegations over the last few years, the problem seems to be increasing under their watch over Patreon. The cynic in me thinks they are convenience camouflage and nothing more.
On the subject of Patreon creators vehemently attacking those who blemish the platform, I have seen the opposite to be true, the prominent creators from the infosec space that I have spoken to have told me that they are really worried about this. For the most part they have gone quiet, nobody wants to create content and build audiences alongside paedophiles, and these allegations are just allegations at this point. One of them (DarknetDiaries) showed me evidence of people canceling their subscriptions and stating the reason was Patreons child porn issue in their exit surveys, they can't be the only creators seeing people vote with their money.
The former security team have gone quiet, understandably. I have been told that they are bound by very generous exit packages and very tight NDA's, you also have to assume that they have been verbally warned against responding to these allegations publicly. We just do not know if the firing of the security team is connected to the allegations online, but in my view security talks to trust and safety all the time, their workloads overlap, I think it was common knowledge internally that they had a massive CP problem.
I have discovered HUNDREDS of allegations going back a decade. I found different glass door posts from a couple of years ago talking about child porn, HUNDREDS of Trustpilot reviews from Patreon users saying that they have reported CP and been ignored, in many cases those reporting CP had their accounts suspended. I have spoken to a number of people who have told me that they have repeatedly tried to report what look like organised CP rings on Patreon, only to be ignored time and time again. There is also petition signed by 95k people to try and persuade Patreon to stop monetising CSAM content, the signs are all there.
Am not sure how much more smoke needs to billow out of this tech company before people realize that there is a serious problem over there.
How much more smoke do you need to convince you that there is a fire?
So we are as legit as any bunch of hackers publishing online could be :)
I can tell you that I have discovered HUNDREDS of allegations going back a decade.
I found two different glass door posts from a couple of years ago talking about child porn, hundreds of Trustpilot reviews from Patreon users saying that they have reported CP and been ignored, in many cases those reporting CP had their accounts suspended. I have spoken to a number of people who have told me that they have repeatedly tried to report what look like organised CP rings on Patreon, only to be ignored time and time again.
Social media is littered with complains about this going back years, allegations are EVERYWHERE. There is very clearly a serious problem over at Patreon, and I have been told it is because internally they have a policy of not taking action against creators unless law enforcement or a court order is involved.
If you read through my article a little more, I found two different glass door posts from a couple of years ago talking about child porn, hundreds of Trustpilot reviews from Patreon users saying that they have reported CP and been ignored, in many cases those reporting CP had their accounts suspended.
I have spoken to a number of people who have told me that they have repeatedly tried to report what look like organised CP rings on Patreon, only to be ignored time and time again. Social media is littered with complains about this going back years, allegations are EVERYWHERE. There is very clearly a serious problem over at Patreon, and I have been told it is because internally they have a policy of not taking action against creators unless law enforcement or a court order is involved.
I would argue that the allegations you see stretching back years are a direct result of this policy. Patreon is in serious need of law enforcement investigation, this has obviously been allowed to develop into a systemic issue internally.
FYI am the CEO.
I do not once call the Spanish fascists, you seem to be a little defensive there. Where does my article say that?
Watch the Guardia Civil show the world how fascist the Spaniards are and remind us of who won the civil war.
No necesitan permiso de Madrid.
Thank you for this, I do intend to drill down into the subject a little more and this will make for good reading, as will this entire thread.
I like to think those capabilities jumped because the new influx of Adobe refugees provided them with enough revenue to supplement their dev team. Or am I wrong?
I would argue that the more psychos in the market, the better for startups and I am quite comfortable with that idea.