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Bodell

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I have made this account irretrievable for myself by changing the password to something I don't know. I no longer wish to belong to this community as it has soured considerable since my joining it five yeas ago.

August 14, 2021

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Bodell··on YouTube blocked chess channel after mistaken detection of racial slurs
This is actually the second time it has happened to the same person. For the same reason presumably.
Bodell··on I am a heroin user. I do not have a drug problem
I want to agree with what your saying but with a caveat.

Years ago I was an office manager at a battery supply warehouse (car batteries not AA’s). We had an employee that had started working for us for about 6 months when it became vary apparent that he had a drug problem. Because his brother also worked there we knew that he had suffered a major car accident, was in crippling debt from the medical bills, and developed a pain pill habit as a result. He was only 19 at the time.

The issues that involved the work place were things like being consistently late, taking 2-3 hour lunch breaks and coming back high. So high, that he could not perform basic job tasks like counting a pallet of battery cores. My biggest concern was that he was licensed to use our fork lifts and so I had our warehouse manager do his best to keep him off the forklifts.

At this point I recommended to my boss that we fire him for the repeated offenses, as well as recommend that he seek drug consoling. I felt bad for him. He had a problem. He needed help. But he did not need to be working at that job for his and others safety. My boss and my boss’ boss, on the other hand, decided it was best to send to him to a “random” drug test, so that when the fired him they could do so with indisputable cause. This did not work, he disappeared for many hours, despite the drug testing facility being just down the street, and the results came back clean. I know that people have many ways of faking drug tests. I suggested again that he be fired for the offenses and not the drug test. Again my bosses disagreed and sent him to two more “random” tests each week after that.

The employee in question got wise to this. He knew what they were trying to do. So he went to a therapist and got a declaration of temporary disability. My company then had to pay him his full wages for 6 months with out him needed to come to work.

And I sat back and laughed at my bosses, as the unemployment claim would have be nominal by comparison.

edit: not sure why this would be down-voted. It is just a real story, relevant to the thread. I was only suggested that waiting for test results when possible danger lurks was not the right course of action. i forgot to add the employee did come back after his psychological disability ran out. And of course they sent him to take a drug test again. He failed that one and was fired.

Bodell··on Pseudophilosophy encourages confused, self-indulgent thinking
Can you share a link? The only videos I’ve ever seen are either a short clip or not translated. Maybe a written transcript would be best.
Bodell··on RNA Memory Hypothesis
Sorry about that. It was late when I posted this.

Book: [0]Memory and the Computational Brain, C. R. Gallistel and Adam Philip King

You can read the main thesis here https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1002/978144431049...

Review: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/262093114_Man_as_Ma...

Also please take all my comments with a grain of salt. I am not expert, I'm just trying to restate what I've read and understood.

Bodell··on RNA Memory Hypothesis
I'm sorry, after the fact, if I've been unclear.

Long-term potentiality is not the point of disagreement. The disagreement is that individual memories are not recalled, as they are not stored, per se. The idea is that neurons acclimate to inputs, so that when we "recall" them we are not retrieving a "memory" from a storage location but instead are being activated in a way that allows us to preform a learned action.

I imagine those marble/cardboard diagrams of logic gates, where the cardboard flap will be left in a particular position after a marble has passed. In this way you can add numbers by dropping marbles into the appropriate input slots. Yet in this way, one could not derive prior calculations, as it does not store this information anywhere.

Bodell··on RNA Memory Hypothesis
I don't disagree that this is a possible way of viewing memory. I'm am simply restating the argument that I've heard the best I know how. That usually comes with a "memory is an illusion" caveat. If you want to argue that that is memory instead of a typical "hard drive" sort of situation then sure, okay, but this is not what most people think of when they think "memory". They believe it is something in which individual memories could perhaps be extracted, implanted, etc. I personally believe it's a valid theory, however it lacks experimental evidence and has yet to account for the fact that we can recall individual "training data". To account for this I do think it would require fundamental changes in how we view "computation". If you believe that artificial neural network structures can account for the brains real neuron processing I suggest checking out the book I mentioned, not because it cant be true but that there are still big unknowns left to discover before we know for sure if this is correct.[0]

[0]Memory and the Computational Brain, C. R. Gallistel and Adam Philip King

You can read the main thesis here https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/pdf/10.1002/978144431049...

Bodell··on RNA Memory Hypothesis
From my reading it seems as if a rather large subset of neurologist do not believe that memory is stored at all. In fact, I have a book written by a computer scientist and neurologist, intending to be a very long argument for why memory must be stored in the brain, weather by neurons or something else. I happened to read a review published in a neurology journal that was brutally dismissive of the book and near made fun of it. Despite the fact that the reviewer failed at providing any answers for logic problems outlined in the book. The reviewer even mistook a logic gate feed back structure for a dual input (the review quoted a study done that cut the “front processor” of the visual cortex to prove that a back connection also existed, I.e. the poor monkey did not lose sight until they severed both the front and back of his brain.)

The claim as I understand it is that there is no “memory” at all. What we experience as memories are simply input parameters that signal our brain to begin a particular function. In the way a neural net does not “remember” the training data but carries out what it “learned” anyway. I have problems explaining this idea as I think it is full of holes and would require some fundamental changes in how we think about feedback structures (I mean this neurologically as well as mathematical/computational).

Either way if most people don’t doubt memory storage in neurons then they are very quite about it. I’ve rarely ever read an argument for memory storage mechanisms in the brain. A good reason for this is simply the question: Where is it then? Neurons individually can’t really provide this sort of expansive data storage. And what they seem to be able to account for is too little and too widely spaced apart. Interestingly this spacing also provides a counter argument against the complex processing that would be required if there wasn’t a memory mechanism.

Personally I think the dismissal of memory comes with a lot of hubris attached, as well as a total lack of understanding information theory. Information theory itself seems to be popularly bemoaned by neuroscientist as well. But it’s hard to see the alternative and is a bit paradoxical since the only way I can seem to understand the “no memory” claim is by using a computer neural net metaphor.

Bodell··on Heavy social media use associated with lower mental health in adolescents
This is all personal anecdotal, and not intended to be a real argument either way.

I have and have had internet in my house since I was 5-10. And I'd have to say: I'm still a misfit, social pariah, currently with no friends. Ironically the most respect (I mean this in the most basic sense of respect) I get from other humans is on here. But things were better when I was younger and worse now that I am 31. I'm not misremembering having more friends when I had places to go and do things in person, I definitely did. And these days I find it increasingly difficult to talk to people who have ever shrinking attention spans. Why is meme speak becoming pervasive in spoken language? Even when I call my mother she can't put down her Facebook or emails for a few minutes to talk. We used to be close. She says she has no time for anything. She's a book publisher and doesn't have time to read the one or two articles I send her every 6 months or so. Even when they are strictly about her field of work. She reads the first paragraph and says she got the "gist", which means we can't talk about it because she has no idea what the other 20 pages said, nor does she care because... well "haven't you seen the top reddit post today. I can't believe (random person) said (random comment) to (random other person)"

To me so many people have just become very boring. I mean what's worth saying/reading that takes 3-5 seconds, really? It's not that I think the internet or online social communication is all bad, or course it's not, but in my experience the bad does outweigh the good. And with suicide and depression rates rising beyond a standard deviation in gen z girls it's hard to feel as if it were worse from them in the past.

Bodell··on 'The Sound and the Fury' as William Faulkner imagined, in color (2012)
There are many people these days that use formatting to further their writing, but a particular example that I enjoyed immensely was Danielewski's House of Leaves.[0]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Leaves

Bodell··on Trump pardons former Google self-driving car engineer Levandowski
Luckily for you this is exactly how it works in these instances. Those who do right action suffer punishment. While those who did wrong get a free pass to continue doing such.

And I do believe this is inconsistent if you believe that justice has anything to do with right and wrong actions.

Your argument is:

1. There are right and wrong actions. 2. Justice does not decide or even attempt at determining right and wrong. 3. Therefore doing something right or wrong has no bearing on the outcome of our justice system.

As an individual, what your are saying is important and I agree. We have to call upon ourselves to do the right thing in spite of the consequences. But often times civil disobedience seeks to change the injustice of the current system and if that system never changes or adapts as a result then the outcome will always be the same. This may have happened in the case with Snowden (though we can still correct it) but it has not been the same throughout history. I’m very glad that we did not simply exile all our civil rights leaders with no thought given toward bringing a greater sense of fairness to our judicial systems.

Bodell··on Trump pardons former Google self-driving car engineer Levandowski
If our justice system does not represent some bid for moral rightness (as flawed as it may be) then what is the point of justice at all? The leakers crimes is in these two cases were mostly pointing out others much weightier violations of the law. Those others have received no punishment, no cost for their crimes. Also, putting the word “merely” before ‘exiled indefinitely from your home’ is personally baffling to me. Especially since one of these people does not live in the US and “in practice” both their lives either were or still are in jeopardy.

Edit: I do think I understand your overall point though. Actually leaking information should be a very serious decision, and should not be taken lightly.

Bodell··on USA vs. Julian Assange Judgment
I think maybe that determining the defense's evidence as not "legally meaning findings" constitutes an a opinion of some kind, even if only through exclusion. I mean 130 pages on why he is guilty does not quite say: We were only interested in making a mental health determination as some of the comments seem to suggest. Then again, maybe there is much more there that I did not read or understand properly.

The conduct being refereed to is part of the issue many people are having here. As the defense argued the conduct is that of an investigative journalist. If such conduct constitutes an offense in the law, then some are worried that there is precedent to charge a wider range of conduct then previously though possible. Weather this is true or not remains to be seen I guess. Either way its a meaningful determination that this judge made.

Bodell··on The science and pseudoscience of diagnosing mental illness
You’ve never done the Lindy? Maybe you’ve done the mashed potato?
Bodell··on USA vs. Julian Assange Judgment
To be fair there was quite a lot of lobbing of opinions as it pertained to his guilt and ability to be prosecuted. Including: “This conduct would amount to offences in English law” and many , many other statements outlining exactly why she thought asking for information and publishing it would be considered aiding and abetting in espionage. I only got about 40 pages of skimming in, the documents is 130+ pages, but the vast majority of it was related to way the charges are felt to be appropriate in his case and very little evidence from the defense other than their broad objections.
Bodell··on Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store
I don't think it implies wrongdoing, just sounds like a silly joke.

Scotch vs scotch whiskey is more of a word play joke as well than a direct analogy. But I see your point and your totally right that one sounds less bad to me. I'm only stating that as a matter of taste I do not like this particular apps name.

And since it's apple's store they have the right to not like it either. I just don't think this is a profound "free speech argument" like some do in these comments.

Personally I think it's really odd that someone would need an app to keep their computer from sleeping. This says far more about macs than the arbitrary naming policy.

Bodell··on Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store
I agree. Which is why I use a non walled garden operating system. Maybe the same should apply to these complaints. I don’t get mad at wal-mart because of what they choose to stock on the shelf and not stock.
Bodell··on Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store
I’m very glad you brought up weed actually. See I have no problem with weed and like to smoke a joint every now and then. However what I don’t want is to have to buy weed called dumb things like “bro down”, “the obliterator”, and “brain destroyer”. I’d much rather you just named something not so click baity.

Sure it’s just a chemical. Everything is just chemicals but I don’t need “meth” for my computer. Same reason our kids don’t need toys advertised as “crack for your baby”.

Agin not offended its just not a good name. Even if let’s say you build an app that’s hooks into some other program and you sell said app for two dollars, you may think it’s hilarious to call it “two dollar hooker”, hell I myself might even chuckle. But only once, then I’ll just get annoyed every time I see “two dollar hooker” in startup, “two dollar hooker has crashed” etc.

I also would not buy your product if it were called alcohol poisoning. I love alcohol. I’m drinking a beer right now (happy New Years everyone). But naming a computer program after it sounds like an odd thing to do. And more to your point would also be a violation of the same rule Apple is using in this case.

Bodell··on Apple has threatened to remove Amphetamine from the App Store
Honestly if your name your product stupid things I would think that some of us might be choosing not to download your product as a result. And if a store decides not to sell your product because of this it’s really their prerogative. Saying you violated their terms with impunity for 6 years doesn’t mean they lose the right to correct the mistake.

This name is pretty rings rather badly in my ears, though I’m not offended by such things. I’d feel similarly if they had named it “fuck sleep”. I’m not offended by the word “fuck” but I don’t really want to buy products that are named that. Do apps need energy drink names to be successful? I’ve noticed a trend in talking about men’s balls in ads, manscaping, underwater fart jokes. It’s seems so much like idiocracy more then something offensive.

On the other hand a rose is still a rose. So I agree they should probably just rename it. I doubt there would be any major loss from doing so.

Bodell··on Shamelessness as a Strategy (2019)
I just wanted to say that regardless of how anyone defines a lie, I personally know what your going through and it really sucks. And for what it’s worth your not alone.
Bodell··on Despairing America: The Astonishing Psychological Cost of Lockdown – AIER
Are you claiming that we may find out soon that 136,000 people (40% of total Covid deaths) are not actually dead? Maybe hiding? Maybe all died of gunshot wounds? Have gun deaths spiked by 350% this year? Has any other major cause of death spiked by an exorbitant amount in 2020? If so we should really be looking into this.
Bodell··on What is a letter?: Literary correspondence in the age of instant communications
A personal joke I tell often when discussing email correspondence:

The amount of time I put into an email inversely correlates to the amount of time someone will spend reading and/or responding to it.

Bodell··on Ten year study: No link between violent video games and aggressive behavior
I think maybe there is some discussion to be had about the difference between personal violence, such as a particular person carrying out a violent crime, and the general acceptance of violence as a viable solution to a myriad of problems.

I both do not know any violent criminals personally, and have witnessed a rather staggering amount of acceptance of violence in our culture.

I’m reminded here of when the director of communications at Lockheed Martin responded with the following when asked about a possible connection between Columbine and the manufacturing of Triton missiles just down the street (Lockheed being a major employer of many parents in the area):

“I guess I don't see that specific connection because the missiles that you're talking about were built and designed to defend us from somebody else who would be aggressors against us.”

We also accept violence in the criminal justice system even to stop non-violent crimes. We also support wars, see it’s approval rating of post 9-11. I’ve had many a person tell me the solution to some Perceived racial problem was to “wipe them out” and only one of them physically assaulted me.

So it seems to me that we are okay with violence but often do not like carrying it out ourselves in personal disputes. Yet this may only be detoured but the treat of violence being carried out on us if we were to. Unless of course we are in the military and have been told/trained to carry out violent activities with impunity. All in all I am not convinced we are a peaceful nonviolent civilization, quite the opposite. Nor am I convinced that seeing accepted violence everyday on your T.V. Screen, be it video game or otherwise, does not affect this pervasive psychological mindset, agin the opposite.

Bodell··on Why Content Is King
The etymology of the words “consummate” and “consume” are completely different. The former is from con (altogether) and summa (sum total; taken from summa (highest supreme)): my interpretation is “union with god”. Which fits with its adjective definition: high degree of skill; complete or perfect. The later, to consume, is from con (altogether) but added to sumere (take up). And if someone were to altogether-take-up I would assume that there would be nothing left.
Bodell··on Kurt Vonnegut on 8 ‘shapes’ of stories
You should actually watch his lecture on this. It resembles a a comedy routine far more than something that would be ‘covering all the bases’. The stories that are similar, are in fact presented that way and the punch line to jokes. You are definitely right about the “it’s complicated” part and this ends up being the main thesis of the whole speech he is giving. Which is: that real life is complicated so which way is up?
Bodell··on Record Breaking Number of Journalists Arrested in the U.S. This Year
So in looking at the first link. I had a hard time finding a single example of anyone pretending to be a journalist, except maybe the owner of the twitter account. What I did find were hundreds of videos of random people getting in fights, the owner of the account talking about the fights he had also engaged in, and a lot of claims about people being part of a secret underground antifi something or other. In reality not one of the videos seemed to be depicting anyone supporting or proclaiming that they themselves were antifi (though I’m sure there are a few somewhere in there) but most especially there was no video of evidence of any of the “secret” antifi activity that the owner of the account seems to be selling in his upcoming book.

As for the second post. It is indeed a person wearing a shirt that says press on it who is not a journalist. However, the given reason was “so he would not be shot by feds” which to me highlights the spirt of this conversation, that there is growing concern as well as some evidence that the country has sifted toward a more authoritarian bent.

Edit: I forgot to mention that there were no rocks or molotovs being thrown in any of the videos I saw, which there were reportedly hundreds of.

Bodell··on Show HN: An anti-book recommendation tool, to help you escape your echo chamber
I tried various combinations of the books I’ve read over the last couple of years[1]. And either I got stuff already on my bookshelf or sphere of reference[2], or a lot of Calvin and Hobbes (seriously every result had at least one, sometimes several), or children’s books, or adult comic books. Which I guess is by some definition the opposite of adult novels. But a fun and interesting tool to play around with either way.

[1] Underworld, Blood Meridian, The Bluest Eye, Milkman, Pale Fire, Borges, etc...

[2] Chekhov, Ursula Le Guin, Proust, Umberto Eco, etc.

Edit: I scrolled down and read the creators summary of how the search works. And now believe my results really nailed his description: rarest but highly rated by readers of the same books. Which also explains all the Calvin and Hobbes, which I think have a universal appeal.

Bodell··on Hemingway Editor
Passive voice is something as opposed to active voice. Passive voice does not imply weakness or passivity, it typically just means there was a subject/object switch-a-roo.

Weak language, such as overuse of adverb qualifiers, is much more akin to the passive-aggressive tone that you’re referring to. Though, it can also just be the product of overly self-conscious writing.

Also, intent is just a small part of context. Therefore, it would rarely if ever supersede the importance of context. For example: Two spies are sitting on a bench speaking in code to one another. Spy 1 gives up an important detail concerning the number of Tridents in a specific location in exchange for some equally important detail related to Spy 2’s national defense structure. Now, it may not have been Spy 1’s intention to divulge his nation’s exact percentage of Tridents stored in a single location, but nonetheless and unbeknownst to Spy 1, Spy 2 already knew the total number of Tridents and therefore could deduce from context. Shovel in a few more cascading deductions and maybe Spy 2 now knows a lot more than Spy 1 ever intended to tell him.

This is true of a lot of things. You can make racists statements out of ignorance without intending to be racist. However, many things that may seem racist on the surface may in greater context be criticism, parody, or just an attempt at candid documentation. All of which are partially informed by intent, but only because intent is a part of context.

Given this and people’s proclivity for hiding their intentions (and even with intentions stated can be either a lie or the truth and we wouldn’t really know so we have to yet still include it in our box of contextual evidence that is still yet to be determined, in terms of authenticity) I would choose to gather as many contextual clues as I could while keeping intent at arms length—still there and I see it, but maybe not the most important factor.

Just for fun the “editor” put this comment at grade 10 and told me to aim lower, grade 9. Too many hard-to-read sentences, adverbs, and difficult words like “therefore”.

Bodell··on Surviving Disillusionment
"Touchy-feely" doesn't really explain to me what potion you hold that would be criticized. What is it you usually read? Why would your comments on the emotional content on a book ostracize you?
Bodell··on You don’t have free will, but don’t worry
"Why am I telling you this? Because I think that people who do not understand that free will is an illusion underestimate how much their decisions are influenced by the information they are exposed to."

I find this sort of ultra deterministic take on things renders articles like these pointless. I mean, what are we supposed to do now, 'choose' to expose ourselves to different information? Isn't too late, in a way before we were ever born kind of way? Wouldn't our "underestimating" be an imperative beyond reproach. Not to mention that free-will is not a factor in our being influenced by information. This is true in both cases, free-will and not.

Personally, I'm a non-compatibilist but believe the jury is still out on determinism. Despite having lots of evidence in support of it, I think there is still a lot of room for conformation bias, simply because the scope of such claims is so large. Overall, it takes a lot of hubris to make the claims stated in this article.

Also as a sort of pseudo-biological question: What would be the purpose be of evolving an illusion of free-will?

Bodell··on The Nobel Prize in Physics 2020
That's because the black hole sucked all the information out of it. Haha.
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