AverageDude

It’s a yaml key value format using a map. And even if it nailed the format, it kept changing the output on it’s own. I mentioned not to change order or remove duplicates, it kept doing that anyway. I gave it 100 elements, it kept giving me around 80. And yeah, it was GPT 3.5.

Yup. I always wonder why is my experience not like others? Are those PR people for Microsoft?

Example:

I gave chatgpt a list. Which looked like

st street

av avenue

Convert this to yaml format as

  st:
    name:
      street

And so on.

It failed spectacularly. Not even once but about 10 times. Even if it succeeded, it kept changing the output by doing ops which I never mentioned in the prompt (like reordering and merging duplicated values to a single key)

Because AI doesn’t have it’s own mind. It’s gonna put some bugs here and there, sooner or later, and then it’s gonna repeat that same thing everywhere, after enough iteration the bug will be so prominent that it’s gonna be a pain in the neck for user (also the premises of almost every AI bad Sci-fi movie/book). It’s a blackbox. It’s like infection spreading.

And because of the corp greed. Cheap solution will always triumph good solution, so I am pretty confident that they will remove the guardrails way sooner that they should. I mean Facebook literally fanned the flames in Myanmar[1] so my bet is on corp greed this time too.

1. https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/09/myanmar-faceb...

I see an Idiocracy inspired future for programming.

People claim that AI can write code so they start firing programmers. Universities stop software engineering programs as there is no one taking the courses. People stop writing blogs or stackoverflow. Software engineers either move to other fields or start living offgrid. No new innovation or new line of code written by human.

Meanwhile, software quality get worse by each passing day and there’s no one to fix. AI poisons it’s own well by generating shitty code and now even simple tasks are taking 30 seconds. People say, “In the good old days, we used to get response in under 1 second”. Just like how they talk about cars and their durability in the good’ol days.

Agriculture has lots of “inside knowledge” which gets passed onto next generation. You need to intern first with another farmer. Ironically, Jeremy Clarkson is doing exactly right this time.

Unemployment —-> Crime —-> Police states —-> Societal collapse —-> Civil war like situation —-> Economy poof —-> Feudalism

Yup. It kept suggesting me properties in flyway (Java lib) which doesn’t exist. It actually threw me of the track and I made a mental note of programming without GPT.

I don’t understand the high level language to machine language comparison with AI. HLL to machine language is translation. We hardcode things. This literal translates to this thing. Machine language has it own mind (figuratively) and it’s not doing translation. It can put some silly bug by misunderstanding the requirements which may cause a billion dollar software meltdown. And who is going to be responsible for that?

The more black box programming becomes the more dumb human programmer gets. There will be stagnation. There won’t be any new “design patterns”.

I asked ChatGPT about the societal collapse. And surprisingly it agrees (with all the usual word salad). Surprised that they haven’t moderated those kind of answers.

Yup. Spent years studying, working late at night, building softwares and what not and in the end I get replaced by a bot. What a tragic end to the story.

I have no real life skill, all my skill set can be easily replicated by a bot in few minutes.

If an AI can create copies of itself and scale, it can definitely build a software end to end, write e2e tests and unit test cases with 100% coverage and deploy. It has enough capabilities as of now to understand requirements.

I have never felt to unenthusiastic about my job like I have been feeling from last few days.

I asked a similar question (see my submissions) and got snarky comments in return. I feel that no one really knows what to do as of now. Best possible thing is to become a cop? With joblessness, we’ll have skyrocketing crime, so they will definitely need lots of cops.

Sorry, I went on a bit of hyperbole. But from apocalypse, I meant as AI causing mass unemployment in dev community.

Disagree. AI will cause mass unemployment because it’s way more efficient than a human, doesn’t get sick (relatively less than humans) and costs less. Simple economics. I’ll give you one example. The checkout counters in supermarkets, if the supermarkets would have hired young people on those positions not only we might have less young people going towards drugs and hooliganism but it would have also made them better productive citizens as they gain skills in their teen years.

Corporates need to understand that their greed for infinite profit will eventually create a singularity which will consume them one day. People without jobs buy less. May be we will finally get rid of the consumerism.

I divide them into three groups.

The first group is those who live a dual life. Different moral compass for West and a different for back home. They put on a good facade and are often reserved when expressing their views about caste and stuff. They are the “no politics” version of your friend circle.

The second group is of those people who accept it (the values) completely and practice it and even try to bring this topic back home and get ousted socially because of the brutal backlash they get. These people are usually not very vocal and try to keep it to themselves and often have Western friends more than the friends from their own community. They are also lambasted by other two groups for trivial reasons like their wives dressing in shorts or posting beach pictures on facebook or for their “accent” for sounding too American/Aussie/Canadian. This group suffers a lot. They are not Western enough for Westerns and they are not authentic enough for the other two groups. They are always a minority everywhere they go.

And there’s this last group, the Western values messes up their whole thought process. They cry discrimination when it’s them at the receiving end but otherwise, West is a money making machine. Accept the monetary benefits but reject the social values of equality and individualism. They are also very vocal and supportive of the regressive values back home and often invent various arguments to support them somehow.

Disclaimer: this is my anecdotal theory based on my interaction with different Indian communities.

I rest my case. The bigotry is not even held back here on HN. Your answers are no different from CCP supporters who say almost similar stuff.

Not only caste, the hatred for minority (in India) has also made it’s way to the West. Some of them just can’t digest meeting the minorities as equals in the West. I remember reading jokes about Sikhs being taxi drivers on Twitter. Casual racism is just thrown around in conversations.