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AtomicNixon

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AtomicNixon··on Neonicotinoids disrupt aquatic food webs and decrease fishery yields
You are being downvoted because the claim is ridiculous and unsubstantiated. Scientists don't need to be lobbied or prodded into tearing shitty research papers to shreds. It's what they do. Science is an adversarial sport, that's why it works. Scientists aren't exactly paid like bankers, and the one coin they do trade on is their reputations.
AtomicNixon··on Neonicotinoids disrupt aquatic food webs and decrease fishery yields
Most definitely not. This is what happens. Article also contains a good summary of how the science was manipulate to get the ban in place.

https://geneticliteracyproject.org/2019/01/09/with-the-bee-c...

AtomicNixon··on Neonicotinoids disrupt aquatic food webs and decrease fishery yields
Actually, here's the real story behind how the ban came about. The guidelines were manipulated so that all the realistic field studies had to be discounted. The lab studies basically amounted to "We fed insecticide to bees and it killed them."

https://risk-monger.com/issues/agriculture/beegate/

As for that Plos One study, take a look at who the authors are and where they work. They're all members of the pesticides action network and the last author on the paper is also a staff scientist for Friends of the Earth, another environmental NGO. Unsurprisingly, she had an article all lined up with The Guardian on the day the paper was released. The paper itself is nothing but a cludge of unrealistic assumptions and bad math.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/07/americ...

AtomicNixon··on Neonicotinoids disrupt aquatic food webs and decrease fishery yields
It's actually the pollination industry that's the root of the problem as I see it, and there's a lot of evidence to support it. There has been a major shift in the past couple of decades and now pollination services account for as much income for keepers as the honey itself. So just out of wintering, when they're at their weakest, they get all the hives together to pollinate the almond crops, and of course to trade the latest parasites and diseases. Once they've got all caught up to date on those, they load them back on the trucks and do a nice tour around the country, spreading the joy.

My parents kept up to 100 hives for almost two decades in northern Manitoba, where it gets down to -40C, and we rarely ever had overwintering losses. Farmers and keepers should treat their livestock well, feed them over the winter, give them a bit of shelter, and they'll do fine. Bees can survive almost any cold if they've got the fuel to burn to keep the hive warm.

AtomicNixon··on Neonicotinoids disrupt aquatic food webs and decrease fishery yields
Really? I find that hard to believe seeing as not one in fifty beekeepers blame pesticides for their losses. Would you prefer the reintroduction of pesticides that actually do for certain kill bees? It's the mites and the diseases they carry.