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Arun2009

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Software developer currently taking a break from full-time work.
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Arun2009··on Hungarian journalists and critics of Orbán were targeted with Pegasus
The world's second largest standing army that can be called to crush insurgencies also helps.
Arun2009··on Key Modi rival Rahul Gandhi among potential Indian targets of NSO client
It's very disturbing to me as an ordinary Indian citizen that a foreign private company was given the carte blanche to spy on prominent individuals in India. India's history is replete with incidents where seeking the help of foreign agents to subdue local opponents compromised India's security and Indians' liberty.

Traitors don't necessarily have to set out to commit treason against their country - they can be just unsophisticated simpletons greedy for power. And they can commit treason and sabotage the nation in the name of patriotism.

Arun2009··on Consciousness and the Laws of Physics
That book has been gathering dust on my shelf for the last 10 years :-)

I only recently completed an undergraduate sequence in quantum mechanics. I still have general relativity and quantum field theory left, which will take some more time to do properly. I also don't know how moral it'd be to wade into those waters without being on a first name basis with Jackson and Goldstein.

Suffice it to say that there's a lot of work to do. But time is something that I have!

Arun2009··on Consciousness and the Laws of Physics
My aim is evaluate the metaphysical claims of Indian philosophy from the perspective of the most holistic account of reality that we can acquire in the 21st century. This will obviously include studying other streams of knowledge that has anything to say about reality.

As to why Indian philosophy - this primarily stems from my Indian background. I have always wondered if the claims of Indian philosophy can be validated scientifically. For e.g., how might a Nagarjuna or Shankara have argued for their claims if they were born in the 21st century?

I suppose I don't have any deeper reasons other than sheer inquisitiveness or jijnAsA (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jijnasa) :-)

Arun2009··on Consciousness and the Laws of Physics
One of the things I want to do before I die is to acquire an authentic knowledge of classical Indian philosophy (particularly the monistic idealistic strands of thought in it) and the modern scientific account of reality, and evaluate for myself how their claims fare against that of the other.

I don't understand why more Indians and particularly Hindus are not doing this. This looks to me like a thrilling intellectual and even spiritual adventure, and one of the few things that are truly worth doing in life.

Arun2009··on MIT and Harvard agree to transfer edX to ed-tech firm 2U
I have surveyed these, but in general, they simply don't come anywhere close in quality to that of courses offered by edX.

An example that readily comes to mind are the courses on manufacturing processes offered by both MITx and NPTEL. The MITx course was clearly a class apart - you actually got to see the processes in question and how they were applied in the real world factories. When speaking about how a product was made, the lecturer actually bothered to bring samples of those products, sometimes dismantled them, and showed us how they could have been put together. I only audited this a few months ago, and to this day I remember the concepts vividly.

On the other hand, in the videos I watched, the NPTEL course lecturer simply read out from powerpoint slides, which he prepared from a standard textbook. You were better off reading the textbook directly than watching the video alternating between the slides and the lecturer's face. It was a very uninspiring, depressing experience.

Arun2009··on Lost in Thought: Psychological Risks of Meditation
Thanks. That was quite informative.
Arun2009··on Lost in Thought: Psychological Risks of Meditation
> I don't think it correct to equate Zikr with meditation.

Maybe I am missing something, but Zikr sounds suspiciously like japa (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japa), which is a well accepted form of concentration meditation in all Dharmic traditions. Many teachers will ask neophytes to have a regular japa practice, where you recite a mantra a certain number of times often with the help of a mAlA, first audibly, and gradually, mentally (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japa#Degrees_of_loudness). The idea being that it's easier to focus on a gross object at first to keep your mind steady, and later proceed to more subtle forms. Patanjali himself recommends that Om be chanted and its meaning reflected upon (https://www.himalayanacademy.com/saivite-scriptures/patanjal...).

The forms of meditations in dharmic traditions is quite bewildering. Patanjali himself recommends to concentrate on anything that you are comfortable with (https://www.himalayanacademy.com/saivite-scriptures/patanjal...).

Arun2009··on Lost in Thought: Psychological Risks of Meditation
> My theory is that both Christianity and Islam exists because of the fact that deep prolonged mediation causes hallucinations and psychotic experiences. Why? Because God talked to both Jesus and Muhammed while they where meditating in the desert.

This has occurred to me as well. But then, this is good news! It means that at least theoretically it might be possible to understand these important historical figures by inducing these hallucinations and psychotic experiences in ourselves in a deliberate and controlled way. This might be the key to understanding religions thoroughly.

I'd even say that a great deal of human progress depends on carrying out this project.

Arun2009··on Lost in Thought: Psychological Risks of Meditation
> On the first day of the retreat, Megan, a cheerful twenty-five-year-old with blue eyes and shoulder-length hair dyed a cardinal red, woke at four o’clock in the morning to the chiming of a bell. For a cumulative ten hours and forty-five minutes, she sat cross-legged on a rug, her spine erect, and tried to focus on her breath.

This to me sounds like the equivalent of trying to squat with a 200 kg weight on your back on day one when you have never trained with weights before.

In the context of Dharmic spiritual traditions, meditation (of various types) is intentionally aimed at facilitating a deconstruction of your normal sense of self and also induce altered states of consciousness. These should not be taken lightly.

If you are going to pursue it seriously, it's best to gradually ease into the tradition and respect the spiritual context in which these techniques are supposed to work. It's possible that the recommendations that Dharmic spiritual traditions have for ethics and devotional practices allow us to be more prepared for our experiences during mediation sittings and receive them in a more wholesome way.

Arun2009··on Google, Apple cave to Pakistan pressure to take down apps by Ahmadiyya Muslims
Unfortunately, this is not a Pakistan specific thing. Ahmadis have been persecuted in pretty much every major Muslim nation. See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Ahmadis

Prima facie, it'd seem that the common factor enabling their persecution is Islam.

Arun2009··on I assume I’m below average (2010)
I once heard a lecture by Prof. Roy Baumeister of University of Queensland in which he described attempts to cure depression by improving the self-esteem of depressed individuals. The researchers thought that perhaps if the patients had a more accurate view of themselves, they would have a more positive mental state.

Unfortunately, they found that it was the non-depressed individuals who had an inaccurate view of their abilities and station in life! The depressed individuals seemed to view themselves quite accurately. So apparently, a bias towards evaluating yourself more positively seemed to play a role in inculcating positive mental states.

He said that instead of the much touted self-esteem, he now thought that perhaps we should focus on control and self-discipline. Overall an interesting idea, I thought.

Arun2009··on Ask HN: Have you picked up any new skill from scratch in your 40s or later?
Dasgupta was one of the first authors I read. Also worked through some volumes of Potter's "Encyclopedia of Indian Philosophies".

Now my aim is to study these topics in Sanskrit with a traditional scholar. Currently trying to see how to make this work.

Arun2009··on Ask HN: Have you picked up any new skill from scratch in your 40s or later?
I will be 40 soon.

I picked up the rudiments of Sanskrit enough to be able to understand lectures in the language and read straightforward prose. I also gained a basic understanding of Indic philosophy, but I suppose that is not a skill. Now my aim is to deepen these skills to more advanced levels.

Currently I am also trying to learn Physics and Mathematics at the undergraduate and post-graduate level. It's taking forever because I keep getting distracted with life generally. But my aim is nothing less than gaining a solid grasp of our current modern understanding of how the universe works. I hope to get somewhere respectable by the time I am 45.

Arun2009··on Ask HN: Is there a website specialized in mathematics courses?
If you are in India, NPTEL courses are a possibility, but I've heard that it can be a hit or a miss depending on the lecturer. You get to write regular assignments, and a proctored exam for a certificate.
Arun2009··on How To Be An Anti-Casteist
The basic problem is that hierarchical organization of the society where a human's worth is determined by his birth is a core classical Hindu (i.e., "Brahmanical") value; egalitarianism is not.

Either Hindus must rewrite the theology of Hinduism to accept an interpretation of the concept of varNa in a way that is concordant with humanistic and egalitarian ideals, or Hindus must accept that Hinduism will be reduced to a minority religion in India. I can't imagine why anyone would agree to be part of a religion that formally considers him or her as a lower class human by birth than certain other humans in the same religion.

Arun2009··on California accuses Cisco of job discrimination based on Indian employee's caste
> Also Jesus was born in a poor family, which would have made him a lower caste hindu if he was born in India

This is not really true. If I recall correctly, Jesus was born in the Davidic line as per the bible, which was important for his claim as the messiah. His high "caste" did matter to his followers. Caste is determined by your pedigree, and not by how rich you are.

It's true that caste-based discrimination is a curse that India must do away with. Perhaps it'd be more helpful to let different communities adhere to whatever traditions are important to them without attaching the concept of highness or lowness associated with it.

Arun2009··on Huawei builds up 2-year reserve of 'most important' US chips
> The value of the US with shared 'western' values is greatly declining, since they are retreating from almost every partnership.

Sometimes there is a tendency to forget that there is more to the USA than Trump and co. I think most Europeans are well aware of the "battle for the soul of America" within USA. The retreats from partnerships are most likely only a temporary glitch.

Arun2009··on Stop Watching the News (2019)
> This seems like the author is explicitly arguing for the tragedy of the commons. Yes, any one individual getting 'wound up' doesn't accomplish much, but the public 'at large' getting wound up can and does effect real change sometimes.

There's an easy compromise: it's likely that some people are better off not watching the news. This group might be more sensitive to disruptive news and opinion pieces. It'd do them good to stay away from news.

This is similar to certain food allergies. Peanuts are good stuff, but some people have negative reactions to it. They are better off without peanuts.

Similarly, if your response to news is highly psychologically disruptive, you'd do well to stay away from it. It doesn't have to mean that you are shirking your responsibilities as a citizen. Rather than exhaust yourself by responding to local and temporal events, you could conserve your energies for longer-term projects that help the society at a fundamental level.

Arun2009··on Ask HN: Do you maintain a log of what you learn? How often do you go over them?
I find it terribly distracting to have all the things that I have tried to learn in my "active" memory. So I cycle between phases where I am engaged with a subject for a while, and then move on to the next item in my (circular) list until I cycle back to the original subject again.

This is a serious impediment to developing any useful expertise in any area, but I have sort of made peace with this tendency. But not all is lost. It has been my experience that the next time I visit a previously learned topic, it's significantly easy for me to load everything to my "active" memory, and build-up from there. Apparently, you never truly forget the things that have once learned well. See here, for e.g.: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/11/081117110834.h...

> Scientists at the Max Planck Institute of Neurobiology have been able to show that new cell contacts established during a learning process stay put, even when they are no longer required. The reactivation of this temporarily inactivated "stock of contacts" enables a faster learning of things forgotten.

I am no expert on memory, but from what I have read on the topic, our long-term memory is virtually unlimited, the main constraint being inability to recall rather than the memory content being erased. If you have once learned a topic well but haven't visited in a long time, you may not be able to recall it very easily, but you will be able to recognize or relearn it better than someone who doesn't have any exposure to the topic.

Arun2009··on RCMP arrest 'money mules' tied to scam calls from India
Indian law enforcement officials do take action against those who are complicit in scams similar to this. E.g., see here: https://globalnews.ca/news/6182793/india-call-centre-scam-ar...

> In a press release issued Sunday, Delhi police said they had arrested 32 “white-collar criminals” and seized 55 computers along with dozens of cellphones, internet routers and “illegal software” being used in what they described as a “swanky international cheating scam call centre targeting Canada citizens.”

> All of those arrested are residents of India and between the ages of 18 and 38, according to the statement.

> The Delhi police alleged the scheme has been targeting Canadian citizens by claiming their social insurance numbers had been compromised.

Here's another: https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-natio...

> LONDON: British Police service on Monday said it had shut down two sophisticated criminal call centres in Kolkata, instrumental in defrauding thousands of victims in the UK alone, with the cooperation of Indian police.

> The call centres were raided by 50 officers from the Cyber Division of Kolkata Police last week as part of a worldwide four-year operation conducted by the UK police and Microsoft.

Arun2009··on China’s Youth Are Caught in the Cult of Nationalism
Same for India as well to a great deal, but in India, it's not just nationalism, it's nationalism with a heady dose of religion.
Arun2009··on India Shut Down Kashmir’s Internet Access
> I have been shocked by the vicious hatred and massive troll armies, that exceed anything I’ve noticed elsewhere

Mutual distrust and animosity was always there underneath the surface. The internet is just making it a lot more visible to outsiders.

Don't forget that India itself was born during violent and widespread Hindu-Muslim clashes that displaced some 10+ million people from their homelands and resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of others. The past history of India has been quite violent if you think about it. We have had several insurgencies fueled by ethnic hatred and real or imagined grievances. The 80s and the 90s were very violent years. We had the Gujarat riots (or pogrom, depending on whom you ask) as late as 2002.

The freewheeling, anonymous nature of the internet just makes ideas fueling hatred to spread fast. Now it is easier for skilled rhetoricians to infect others. Everyone is getting radicalized - Hindus, Muslims, various caste and ethnic groups, you name it.

All this is not even counting any bots and propaganda armies on the internet working overtime to project a certain narrative. I fear that things might get worse, much worse, before they get better.

Arun2009··on India Shut Down Kashmir’s Internet Access
> I think it is pretty clear that the Indian Government rushed into this because this is what their Hindu-nationalistic base wants - subdue the only Muslim Indian majority state.

Abrogation of Kashmir's special status has been a top agenda of the BJP for the past few decades. They are pretty big on "national unity", and they see the special status for Kashmir as going against this principle. They want Kashmir fully integrated into India once and for all. They also consider the indecision about Kashmir's status in India as being a prime cause for terrorism in that region. Kicking the muslims has very little to do with it.

Whether this step will backfire remains to be seen. Indians will have to ask some very tough questions about what kind of nation they want India to be, and whether the vision they come up with will be viable at all given the nature of the Indian society.

Arun2009··on US Visa Forms DS-160, 260 Has Social Media Questions Now – Samples
The US is well within its right to decide who should be allowed within its borders, but this requirement will drive away precisely the kind of immigrants that the US (or any other sensible country) might want to attract.
Arun2009··on Apple begins exporting India-made iPhones to European markets
> What are the chances that India does the same?

The saving grace (in my opinion) is that India is vastly more susceptible to pressure from outside than China. Indian government can't simply impose a policy and expect the population to fall in line. If western sanctions make lives difficult for India's industry or the common citizens, the government will have to backtrack pretty much immediately.

Arun2009··on Apple begins exporting India-made iPhones to European markets
Just an aside: one thing people who harp on India's population problem seem to miss is that the fertility rates in India are on a steady downward trend. Indeed, it's below replacement level in several Indian states. See here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_and_union_terri... . The literacy rates too are improving ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literacy_in_India) as are the poverty levels (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poverty_in_India). It's no coincidence that India's poorest states are also its most populous and also most illiterate. They also happen to wield the most political power in India.

The trouble is that India has a social bootstrapping problem. India's governance depends on the leaders Indians elect, which means that the electorate sets the policy followed by the leaders. And this electorate is largely poor and illiterate. This means that vastly sub-optimal policies get followed than what would be ideal. Often religious, casteist and nationalistic tropes are an easier sell than those based on science, commonsense and reason. But it also has the advantage that draconian policies that oppress the citizens don't get implemented.

Arun2009··on Ask HN: What are you working on?
My course is the famous one by Samskritabharati (https://www.samskritabharati.in/). It's a correspondence program, but they do conduct introductory contact classes as well. They also deliver materials overseas. Samskritabharati also has online video lectures (http://www.samskritashikshanam.in/), but they are in Hindi.

I have audited a few introductory courses from vyoma samskrita pathashala (https://sanskritfromhome.in).

There's also the Rashtriya Sanskrit Sansthan in India (http://www.sanskrit.nic.in/) who have a two year introductory correspondence course. I believe they deliver overseas as well. I did the first year of their course with the help of a tutor I hired from urbanpro.com, but (as with all things GoI) I found the experience to be far less satisfactory than Samskritabharati's.

If you can read Hindi, you can also look at the school textbooks by NCERT as well, which are available for free (http://ncert.nic.in/textbook/textbook.htm)

Two "Western"-style books that I would recommend are:

* Devavanipravesika (An Introduction to the Sanskrit Language) by Robert Goldman

* Samskrita-SubodhinI (A Sanskrit Primer) by Madhav Deshpande.

One thing I want to do is to work through these books once I am done with Samskritabharati just to cement the things I have learnt.

The nice thing about Samskritabharati's course is that it doesn't just teach the language, but it also introduces you in a gentle (but unapologetic!) way to the whole tradition that flourished through it's medium. They also publish books in Sanskrit, which may also help you in your education.

Good luck!

Arun2009··on Ask HN: What are you working on?
My list keeps changing, but I have three main "projects" these days.

- I will complete the final level of a beginner's Sanskrit course this August. This has been an intermittently executed project for me. I can follow uncomplicated spoken and written Sanskrit now, and can mostly understand Sanskrit at the level of Gita or the Indian epics. My long term aim is to be able to read Indian philosophical works in their original.

- I am teaching a few neighborhood kids Mathematics, Physics, and occasionally, Computer Science. This is immense fun!

- I am trying to learn at a deeper level some of the topics that I learned during my undergraduate studies. On this front, right now I am working on understanding operating systems and compilers a bit better.

Arun2009··on India's super-rich peak tax rate, at 42.7%, now higher than USA
> And in India you need to work 5x as hard if not less to make same wages as your American counterpart, even then if you manage to make the same wage as someone I America, you'll find your money can only buy 1/3rd of the benefits an American can buy.

There are other "luxuries" that middle-class Indians can afford if they're earning at least the lower-end of American-level salaries. Early retirement, reasonably affordable healthcare and education, properties far away from cities and affordable labor to work them, more affordable house-help (cooks, house-maids, nannies).

Speaking personally as someone who has lived in a first-world country and who's now living in India, I find that free time is more valuable to me than drones or Lamborghinis or iphones. Not saying that things are ideal in India - far from it, in fact. But living in India does have its positive side as well.

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