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4sellff

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datacenter engineer | server virtualization | storage | data protection | real estate | startups | trust and reputation

sellff.com

ron.michel@sellff.com

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4sellff··on Show HN: I built a zero-cost, ad-free alternative to LinkedIn
The starting share price is 1.00 for all members at the time of registration.

- When anyone BUYS shares in your profile, the price will increase by 0.01 - When anyone SELLS shares in your profile, the price will decrease by 0.01

Each trade is fixed at 100 shares

There are a few limits we placed for the launch: [1] A maximum of 1,000 shares in another member per day - So, if you wanted to BUY 5,000 shares, it would need to be spread across 5 different days - The same logic applies if want to SELL shares

[2] A maximum of 100,000 shares total in another member

4sellff··on Show HN: I built a zero-cost, ad-free alternative to LinkedIn
Please...which tab are you referring to? Which member profile? Feel free to send an email to help@sellff.com with any details. Thx.
4sellff··on Show HN: I built a zero-cost, ad-free alternative to LinkedIn
The consult feature is in development for the next release. You decide if you want to provide this service in your profile. The idea is to make it easy for you to turn-on/turn-off this feature. Initially, we see 30-minute and 60-minute blocks of time, where you determine the price.

So, if for example you sell accounting services and I am looking for an accountant, I will pay you $xx amount of money to have an initial consultation.

You may prices your services high or low, depending on supply demand. But, for me as a buyer, it's a transparent low-risk way for me to meet/evaluate a professional that I am considering to hire.

The platform would take a % of the consult fee paid, which would take place off-platform [Ex. Stripe].

4sellff··on Show HN: I built a zero-cost, ad-free alternative to LinkedIn
Not sure that manipulation can be entirely eliminated. Instead, we are trying to incentivize good behavior and make it easier to identify fakes.

If you sell services and/or need to find a service provider, you need some method to perform [1] discovery, [2] evaluation, and [3] decision.

This is what we tried to build, in a manner which we hope promotes trust and good behavior. That said, as the platform develops, we will no doubt need to make adjustments.

But the focus will remain on maintaining an efficient marketplace for buyers and sellers to interact and transact.

4sellff··on Show HN: I built a zero-cost, ad-free alternative to LinkedIn
Yes, launching was a lot of work. My focus is on product. The real talent is a 3-person team in Croatia who I found via a HN "Who wants to be hired" post. We started April-2020. What you see today is the result of everyone working evenings and weekends, during the quarantine lockdown, while maintaining a full-time job.

Much respect and love for: Bruno, Ivona and Kresho. They are an excellent representation of how the SELLFF platform can work. If you are looking for talented programmers, I can definitely recommend them.

4sellff··on Show HN: I built a zero-cost, ad-free alternative to LinkedIn
As I recall, the Klout [and CRED] score was based on an aggregation of your off-platform social activities. This included, for example, your Twitter activity.

The SELLFF TRU Score is based on your on-platform activities and is determined only by members of the SELLFF community.

4sellff··on Show HN: I built a zero-cost, ad-free alternative to LinkedIn
And that is part of the problem space we are addressing. How do you find and select people to work with? Whether that is a plumber, accountant or software developer. It's great if you have a referral from a trusted friend. But what if your trusted friend does not have a referral? Or, if the referral is busy at the moment. The need still exists and you need to find a provider.

Perhaps the TRU Score is not the "perfect" solution, but I think it's far better than a simple star rating. How many times on HN do we see posts about people "buying" ratings or followers. As a result, people lose trust in the value of the rating system. So, we have created an alternative that we think people can trust.

A future release has planned to use Stripe Identity. Whereby, you will have confidence in the profile you are viewing and can make an informed buying decision. As designed, manipulation of the TRU Score [when combined with Identity], will be difficult.

4sellff··on Show HN: I built a zero-cost, ad-free alternative to LinkedIn
To be clear, the platform does not support "short selling" of the shares in another member. So, there is no effective way to deliberately drive down the reputation of another member.

Shares are traded in a fixed size of 100. Each BUY transaction increases the share price by 0.01. Each SELL transaction, reduces the share price by 0.01.

When you join the service, shares in your profile become available to trade by every other member. Members discover each other primarily based on services offered/needed. Today, if you like someone on a network, you might choose to "follow" or "like" them. We offer an alternative, whereby you "invest" in them.

A follow or like from you to someone else makes the connection and allows you to view their network activity. An investment on SELLFF does the same "and" allows you to benefit from any upside in the value of that investment. As the person you invest in goes up in value, so do you. Not a bad situation really.

Anytime you like, you can BUY or SELL more shares. The exchange is open for trading 24 x 7.

4sellff··on Show HN: I built a zero-cost, ad-free alternative to LinkedIn
Not advertising in the traditional sense. Today, many of the ad's you see are based on data collected about you. There is no "opt-in" and you are not compensated.

We envision a model whereby you select which promotions to participate in, based on your needs/interest "and" how much you will receive in compensation.

From the seller standpoint, we believe the costs to reach a consumer will be similar. Yet, the consumers they do reach will have a genuine interest in the offering. Thus the promotion has the potential to offer a better response. To be clear, the seller is able to select which members qualify for the promotion [Ex. based on location, occupation, TRU Score, etc].

From the buyer standpoint, we view this an an improvement over the current model. There is no privacy violation or personal data sharing with strangers. You have the freedom and choice of which promotions to participate in. Assuming it works as planned, it would allow you to make a more informed buying decision.

4sellff··on Show HN: I built a zero-cost, ad-free alternative to LinkedIn
I believe the trading feature helps to prevent manipulation. The investments you make in others counts towards the TRU Score for you and the other person. So, if you make "bad" investments in others, it will only serve to reduce your TRU Score. Of course, some people might be willing to sacrifice themselves for the benefit of others. But, that should be easy to identify.

Example: If a high-reputation person vouches for someone, does it have more meaning compared to the endorsement from a person with no/low reputation?

Which is why the TRU Score is more than just the share price and your investments. It also includes other platform activities [Ex. member reviews, review scores, number of investors, etc.]. Not claiming we have solved this problem. But, we think it is a step in the right direction.

4sellff··on Show HN: I built a zero-cost, ad-free alternative to LinkedIn
We believe the platform is attractive to professionals who want an easy, privacy-focused way to promote the services they offer, with the ability to differentiate themselves from people offering the same/similar services.

The platform is zero-cost, ad-free and includes direct messages. I hope the UI is more easy to navigate and understand, compared to LinkedIn.

The TRU Score, while somewhat controversial, is more powerful than a star-rating system. Also, it works works for you as a buyer or seller.

Monetization is planned in a future release and includes [1] selling blocks of time to people who want to consult with you, and [2] promotions, where you [as a seller] pays the buyer for considering your services.

We believe it's a great time to build alternatives to the major networks that exist today. It should be easier for people to promote and sell their services. It should be easier for people to find trustworthy providers. And it should be easier to protect your personal privacy.

4sellff··on Show HN: I built a zero-cost, ad-free alternative to LinkedIn
Valid point. Yet millions of people each day make buying decisions based on a simple 5-star rating. Trading shares is a very pure way to represent market value, whether that is company stock or cryptocurrency. We see an opportunity to apply the concept to a professional digital reputation? Where the TRU Score can be used as a form of currency.

Separate from the TRU Score, the platform provides the ability to connect with professionals across different service types, by "matching" services offered and services needed. So, you could offer your services and people could find/connect with you, independent of your TRU Score.

4sellff··on Show HN: I built a zero-cost, ad-free alternative to LinkedIn
The TRU Score is the primary point of differentiation. The goal is to provide an independent way to measure reputation and trust, that uses community feedback.

There are many ways to generate a score for a person. Our method involves the trading of of virtual shares, which are bought/sold just like stocks. Share price changes are reflected in that persons TRU Score. The investments you make in others is reflected in your TRU Score.

https://sellff.com/about

4sellff··on Ask HN: How do I start my own consulting firm?
I have interest in speaking with you about a consulting opportunity. Please e-mail me: ron.michel at vmconfig.com
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