and if he never liked the leadership role as he claims, he was given ample opportunities to get rid of it.
and if he never liked the leadership role as he claims, he was given ample opportunities to get rid of it.
"I had hoped for a long time that the fork situation would resolve and both sides somehow merging back into one team. All the Libav developers joining FFmpeg again. But even now as the last distributions are preparing to remove Libav, still theres no hint of that happening. Maybe even the opposite."
and
"Do friendly merges, and if you like do hostile merges. Its all up to you now!"
That isn't "a ton of derogatory remarks".
libav is working to the same goal as ffmpeg. The split is due to idealism and politics, not due to the goal of the project. I'm not going to pick a side in this, as interpersonal relationships are impossible to accurately gauge from an external viewpoint.
I'm not sure if you have a personal stake in this argument, and I apologize, and sympathize if you do.
Best of luck in the future Mr Niedermayer. Thanks for all the work over the years.
that the gist of it, it's always the other side wanting him harm. he never ever acknowleged any wrongdoing on his side.
Libav is about rules and not leaders.
If your rules prevent you from keeping your software secure, you don't have enough manpower to do what is in your user's best interests.
posts like this one is why it went off the rails a long time ago. there is also the one where he suggested a libav dev should commit suicide and later labeled it as "Austrian humour"
Your team won, Michael stepped down. Of his own volition. What positive outcome could possibly be had by still spouting bitterness and negativity against him? Is it because he did not genuinely say "sorry" at some point? After reading [0] and [1], is it not possible to admit that maybe both sides have some genuine "sorries" to pass around? Now seems like the perfect opportunity to make a positive change for developers and users instead of venting frustrations that are only going to further polarize the current division.
(I'm not "automatically" labelling your posts as bitter. Almost all of yours in these comments objectively contain negative language, typically directed at Michael.)
[0] http://ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2011-January/106403...
[1] http://ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2011-January/106489...
Edit, to add:
I guess I echo this sentiment (from article's email chain): http://ffmpeg.org/pipermail/ffmpeg-devel/2015-July/176493.ht...
For the another batch of links and some more background.
You can't claim that everyone that disagrees with you is being "derogatory".
EDIT: Example:
"I disagree with you" = not derogatory
"You're an idiot" = derogatory
Libav has a code of conduct and it is enforced so maybe you'd have much an harder time finding such gems.
http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.video.ffmpeg.devel/17927...
(Keep in mind at least one of the Libav supported got questioned on his dayjob regarding "thievery" because of those lovely examples and the legends the fans kept propagating)
>If noone has time ill fix the memleak and commit and let the libav cleanup monkeys clean the rest up for me.
Is the kind of inflammatory comment you are so up in arms over, I think you must have lived a very sheltered life. Especially considering this comment looks to have come shortly after the hostile split.
Is that the line you're objecting to?
That sounds kind of jokey and affectionate to me.