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So is your conjecture that Ritalin, as a common street drug, with well known stimulating effects on the non-ADHD user, is merely a case of a placebo effect? They think they should go and dance for 18 hours rather than the effects of the drug?

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Stimulants stimulate people with ADHD, too. I'm not sure where people get the idea that they don't. The fact that they stop trying to stimulate themselves means they act calmer, but if you gave someone with ADHD a bunch of Ritalin or a few lines, they certainly aren't falling asleep unless they have a huge tolerance.

I'm just responding to this.

>The second half of this, that normal kids on Ritalin and Adderall will be overstimulated and unable to concentrate, is just plain false.

Not that I've taken Ritalin, but some folks I know have taken it particularly for the off-the wall overstimulated feeling they get on it. Perhaps it's false. But then it would just be a placebo effect and they may as well have taken cod liver oil.

I don't just simply fall asleep, but Ritalin and Adderall have had relaxing effects, enough to make sleeping easier.

And I've never felt as calm as when I took basic uppers (black beauties, i.e. Adderall without that annoying timed release thing).

So, anecdotal evidence tells me different brains react differently to stimulants.

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