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Exactly. Dark matter and dark energy is just a symptom of the standard model of physics being incorrect.

>Dark matter neither emits nor absorbs light or any other electromagnetic radiation at any significant level. According to the Planck mission team, and based on the standard model of cosmology, the total mass–energy of the known universe contains 4.9% ordinary matter, 26.8% dark matter and 68.3% dark energy.[2][3] Thus, dark matter is estimated to constitute 84.5% of the total matter in the universe, while dark energy plus dark matter constitute 95.1% of the total mass–energy content of the universe.[4][5][6]

Science is literally religious faith.

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Ummm... this is kind of thing is well in line with the history of science. Clearly dark matter is a fudge factor to make the current model of physics work. Obviously there is a flaw here somewhere, so there are multiple competing theories of which dark matter & dark energy are but one for explaining this. Some theories are more popular than others...

But pretty much within 5 years of a new falsifiable theory that can explain the situation which can be experimentally proven dark matter will go the way of the myriad of disproven theories... whereas religious faith would extend the belief in dark matter out for possibly thousands of years after it is shown to be experimentally incorrect.

So not 'literally' religious faith at all...

> Dark matter and dark energy is just a symptom of the standard model of physics being incorrect.

Possibly, and if there was a better model -- one that was as good at predicting/explaining the observed effects for which the standard model works and did not require invoking dark matter and/or dark energy, the standard model would be dropped in a heartbeat. But right now the standard model + dark matter + dark energy is what works best, of the models that have been presented, at modeling what is actually observed in our universe. So it survives. For now.

Whether it will be resolved by an as-yet-unproposed tweak to the basic model or finding out that "dark matter" and "dark energy" are real things is yet to be seen.

The notions of dark matter and the dark matter particle are incorrect. The mass which fills 'empty' space is beginning to be referred to as the 'dark mass' in order to distinguish it from the baggage associated with dark matter.

'Dark Energy/Dark Mass: The Slient Truth' https://tienzengong.wordpress.com/2015/04/22/dark-energydark...

"That is, all that we are certain about [is] the dark mass, not dark matter, let alone to say about the dark 'particle'."

Particles of matter move through and displace the dark mass, including 'particles' as large as galaxies and galaxy clusters.

The Milky Way moves through and displaces the dark mass.

The Milky Way's halo is the state of displacement of the dark mass.

The Milky Way moves through and curves spacetime.

The Milky Way's halo is curved spacetime.

The state of displacement of the dark mass is curved spacetime.

> Science is literally religious faith.

No it isn't. Not by a long shot. Faith requires that you confabulate to a reach a certain cognitive destination. Science only allows models that conform to reality upon repeated testing.

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