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http://www.kongregate.com/ already has a system like this in place.

Why do people act so dismissive about what others achieve by comparing it (in a shallow manner I might add) to what other's have already done? Guess what, I've never used Kongregate and I've been addicted to games since I can remember. When it comes to potential addressable market, teh great internet is f---ing massive and users are not that loyal if a better solution comes along so who gives a damn. <Cue Facebook entrance>

In my humblest opinion a dismissive, thoughtless, knee-jerk comment more often than not suggests a reaction from a wantraprenuer. Exhibit B: TechCrunch comments. Whether it's fear, lack of confidence, or something else, they certainly don't realize - muchless value - execution, focus, and persistence.

Keep on truckin' HeyZap.

So true and to make things worst, people that are busy building things don't get time to comment. Markets, incentives, life - go forth and conquer my lord (free forever). Last sentence was a joke.......

Sorry. I meant no offence. I just feel as if the news stories on this site should describe something novel, otherwise we'd have a thousand posts a day about people learning how to tie their shoes for the first time.

Kongregate's system is not distributed so it doesn't work whereever the SWF is. Also our system ties in to dual currency (points) and Facebook/ Twitter.

Kongregate's system is nice though.

Hey immad,

Do you guys have a solution like Jambool's in-swf flash payment system?

https://www.jambool.com/socialgold/flash_promo

Yeah, they sorta missed the boat I think. They should have created a distributed system like Heyzap in addition to their portal site. They should really acquire Heyzap now though.

We looked at doing this at Kongregate - to us achievements are only meaningful in the context of a community, something you don't get with a distributed system. While the integration with Twitter and Facebook addresses this to some extent, I don't really think it gets at what achievements are all about. They're meaningful to a community of other people who play the game, not to everyone you know on the internet.

Another problem with this is that the other portals that the game would be distributed on are our competitors. They're not really going to take kindly to having our achievements on their site. And frankly, they're not going to want HeyZap's, either.

How does it hurt, though?

Either people don't care about achievements outside of destination sites, or they do.

If they don't, nobody will use it.

If they do, you have a smash hit.

Seems like a worthwhile experiment.

Why not let HeyZap do the experiment and follow up if it works?

We are going to be opening up APIs for publishers get achievement data. We also already push users through our viral channels back to the publishers website (would do this automatically but flash doesn't allow it).

Most publishers we talk to love it. We want to open up this data and allow creative applications of achievements, both in the given community and in the wider social graph.

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