Then the Lord said to Cain,
“Why are you angry?
Why is your face downcast?
If you do what is right, will you not be accepted?
But if you do not do what is right,
sin is crouching at your door;
it desires to have you, but you must rule over it.”
This text was composed into its current long after the mythical-or-real Cain existed, and probably written down only centuries after that. The original composition likely was before the 3K-years-ago dawn-of-consciousness that Jaynes stipulates.The interesting thing about the passage is:
* there's still an either-real-or-self-manufactured deity involved
* Cain struggles in an apparent self-aware way with jealousy and rage
* he's explicitly aware of the need to modify his perception
* there's still a "bicameral mind" but it's integrated into consciousness
From either Cain's perspective, the author's perspective, or the ancient reader/hearer's perspective, I think this passage is fascinating.A pretty convenient and unconvincing argument on his part.
I am increasingly drawn to the idea that there is no difference between the so called conscious and subconscious mind. It seems more natural for me to think that experience literally is processing millions of tiny things at the same time. The idea is still muddy but the concept of a level of abstraction observing itself seems very compelling to me. Douglas Hofstadter explores this concept in his book "I Am a Strange Loop".
A visceral reaction caused by cultural programming (e.g. taboos against consuming the flesh of certain animals) is a great example of subconscious thought.
Actually, that is exactly what your subconscious does. You are literally thinking vocal thoughts to yourself constantly. You could be having a conversation at the dinner table while your subconscious mind vocally (internally) remarks about the colour of someone's tie and the taste of the meat you're eating all at the same time. You don't usually hear these thoughts or realize that you're thinking them. Through meditation anyone can come to hear the actual vocal versions of these subconscious streams of thought.
Psychotropic drugs can help too.
So we can't sense them, but they exist? Seems questionable to me.
> Through meditation anyone can come to hear the actual vocal versions of these subconscious streams of thought.
Isn't it possible that meditation isn't "unlocking" our subconscious but rather just changing the process by which we think consciously?
A thought is something that is brought about by thinking, and thinking is something that is done consciously. A subconscious thought is a contradiction.
That is a ridiculous assertion. https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=%22subconscious+t...
I believe this effect is the additional cortex layer made us experienced.
It's not that I don't think we have a "subconscious thought", it's just that I don't think it's reasonable to call it thought if it's not fully conscious. This is an issue of semantics, not neuroscience.