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> tbh, I'm German and while we have our own issues with police, conduct like this is next to unheard of.

Can I be a german please? I'm just about serious at this point.

If you work in IT I am sure it can be arranged. It will take a bit of time though. Get a job with a EU based company (in the Schengen agreement), but in their local office to you. Work for a couple of years there. Then get a transfer to one of their EU offices. Work there for a number of years. Apply for citizenship. The process is of course more complicated than that and dependent in which country you pick, but that is the general gist of it. But do your research.

Although I would personally recommend that you stay where you are and join a movement to change your country.

I think part of it is that in Italy, and I'd guess in Germany too... well, we have "being a police state" in living memory, so nobody wants to start being THOSE guys again. It keeps police-state tactics in check.

I'm Italian, moved to the US a few years back.

Well, Italians aren't just very patient at organising - so police will deal with those situations more impulsively:

"Once arrested, protesters, including five Britons, were taken to a police barracks where they were beaten again, sprayed with asphyxiating gas, threatened with rape and forced to sing fascist-era songs."

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/feb/12/night-police-be...

Well then it is easy for you, if you have an Italian passport.

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